My fear is that, as we all know despite what sky tell us, the quality of the game has dropped alarmingly to the fact that the sport does not have the clout to compete with RU & the NRL and so all our best players leave and we replace them with up and coming kids (nothing wrong with that but it takes time for them, to develop) or we import from the NRL. Unfortunately I cant see a worrying trend developing due to the threat of relegation where clubs are going back to recruiting 2nd and 3rd rate or ageing imports who do not raise the quality of the game. This is why I suggest that it wont take long before championship clubs will be able to compete with SL - but isnt that what the sport wants? every team has a chance?? smoke and mirrors - the game is dead

I truly believe that Wigan, Saints and Leeds are all bigger than the game. No Wigan vs Saints = a loss of the only 23/24/25k crowd left in the game. What's would be left if they went to the NRL? Finals of Wire vs Hudds or the big Hull derby





Don't kid yourself we are the biggest name in British RL. We might not currently be the best team in the league but I certainly wouldn't bet against us being the best placed to cope long term. Our facilities, history and talent pool are 2nd tof none.

I nearly 40 years of watching the game, I have seen us come close to beating the aussies in a test series but the fact is we are still waiting - the 'game' between Salford and leigh was a joke, tick and pass, panic play, no quality

So did Leigh and Halifax "not even come close" to beating Hull KR and Widnes last week or not?

Smell the coffee buddy.... RL is dying.

Unlike Leeds, Warrington and St Helens Wigan don't even own their own stadium so the facilities point is a little moot. I'm sure there is a nice training ground but the other clubs certainly have those.

FWIW, people outside Rugby League have been predicting its demise for the past 120 years and the idea that this should happen now when the sport remains a very valuable TV commodity is preposterous.

I can see why Wigan fans might consider current times difficult though - the entertainment value offered by Waneball is perhaps a little lacking, the club lacks the stadium which provides a heart and soul to the other big clubs whilst, for some reason, all too many home-produced players are happy to leave when they get a decent offer.

No, both teams lost - simples

Us STILL being the biggest name in British RL hurts don't it..

If you say so. Wigan's golden era is something of a folk memory for most people now so it's difficult to comment on what lasting grandeur it bestowed on your club.

The past is there on record... You need to be concerned about the future.

You forgot to add "least humble" to the list!

Looks like someone's had a successful outing with the rods, several lines out and bites on every one