Yes the word profit giving you a clue to Warrington's parlous state. How many sporting clubs post a profit these days?

Figures include transfer fees paid of £215k in 2013. Seems a lot to spend on Anthony England who was our only signing during the year

Leeds

Turnover reduced from £10.7m in 2012 to £10.03m in 2013 mostly due to not reaching a final in 2013.

Profit reduced from £692k to £406k.

Amount owed to the club = £1.643m

Cash at bank = £1.99m

Impressive figures, surely no British club can match that.

Is that for the Rhinos or the holding company incorporating the rah rahs and the cricket facilities. Where do Leeds Carnegie fit into this?

Quote Finfin="Finfin"Is that for the Rhinos or the holding company incorporating the rah rahs and the cricket facilities. Where do Leeds Carnegie fit into this?'" viewtopic.php?f=17&t=573195&start=0 Most of the £2m owed to the club is owed by the RU side.

Quote Finfin="Finfin"Is that for the Rhinos or the holding company incorporating the rah rahs and the cricket facilities. Where do Leeds Carnegie fit into this?'" viewtopic.php?f=17&t=573195&start=0 Most of the £2m owed to the club is owed by the RU side.

It's the Rhinos. Leeds CF & A.
The cricket facilities are owned by Yorkshire CCC.
The Union lot are separate and owe the Rhinos £827k
There's also a baffling annual "management charge" from the Rhinos to the Union lot. Roughly around £100-120k each year. Which is effectively Caddick taking Rhinos profits to prop up Carnegie.

One clarification - since the majority of the corporate facilities at Headingley fall within the control of the RL club (pavilion/Carnegie Stand/hotel), cricket does have a direct effect on Leeds' finances as Yorkshire couldn't hope to put a test or ODI without them. So Leeds make decent money out of this - not as much as in the good old days, but still very worthwhile. Hence the Strategic Report observes that, "Headingley Experience catering budget suffered mainly as a result of the One Day International cricket being a wash out and no play on the Friday of the Test Match."

Wigan RLC Ltd has minimal fixed assets, is technically insolvent and to continue trading is reliant on the owner not withdrawing his support. Even if the company is making small profits now, it's not a happy position for one of the larger British RL clubs.

Go on then, spill the beans. Daryl Clark? Richard Agar?

how do you judge which clubs are the most sustainable?

imo a club needs to self generate funds that make it self sustainable as a business rather than relying on rich benefactors like either moran or lenagan,whose vast ammounts of money that they both put into their respective clubs certainly keep them not only sustainable but also very successful too

how would these clubs manage business wise and also success wise should these owners not pump their money in as they do and just put their self generated profits back into the club as the rhino's do?

apparently leeds rhinos' turnover a season or two ago was larger than both wigan's and saint helens' turnover combined

imo leeds rhinos are by far the best run sl club in this hemisphere without a doubt

How much has Lenagan put into Wigan?

not sure?
how much do you reckon it has cost him to keep wigan at the top echelon of sl without self sustainable profits as a business?