No he shouldn't.

No matter how outdated and unpalatable his opinion may be, he hasn't broken the AUP. Back on topic please.

I've just deleted some posts that added nothing apart from personal insults. If you can't make a point without insulting someone expect a ban.

Do you want to come back on and have another alternative response, he's gone through a lot of problems of which some of them are self inflicted, most of them he dealt with.
In this scenario its an illness effecting people in different ways, most people have a neutral sympothetic response.

Saying that he's never felt better and that he's glad he's "out the other side" so soon after this is a bit of a worry. Hope he has the right people around him and treatment for the long term.

I'n my long career I've attended too many who have gone and taken the final decision thet Sean Long talks about, it's just absolutely devastating, for all. Depression is in my opinion a bi-product of modern living and affects all, no matter how "tough" or jocular they may appear to the public.

Lets face it, to Wigan fans, Sean when playing was a pantomine villain , and he tormented us........alot. But that's where it ends. So please Wigan Pie Man, be a mensch

You're the sheriff of this board Andy, but i'd have thrown this at them

Rugby league needs to get behind ex players and players etc in need of help. This is not football. We should be proud of our game and 'community spirit.'

I don't think it was meant that way, it's just a seriously brainless, out of touch view. Every village has one. Back on topic, I hope Long gets all the help he needs. It seems to be becoming a bigger issue all the time, particular amongst younger men

Problem in RL is the players dont make enough money in their careers to retire on. Prem Footballers can retire with millions in the bank and never work again, RL players are thrown to a job market they've no experience of and the change can be shocking, akin to soldiers leaving the army.
We need greater support structures in place for them. Where has mr Wilkin and Mr Peacocks great union been in all this?

I know what you mean, but all he's done is highlight the large number of people who have the "pull yourself together" attitude to these kind of things. Twitter and Faceache are full of grief/outrage junkies without us letting it being a banning offence on here.

I think it was brave of him to come out and speak about it really does take a lot of guts

The problem with longy is it's not just recent he's had demands so can't really use this has an excuse i get what he's saying about his playing career but he's had jobs at Salford,Wigan and London to grow as a coach and he's screwed everyone of them opportunitys up

You can't walk into a job like that and expect to be the top dog look at Wane he was with our youth for years and learned the trade there is a difference between playing and coaching i do think he could make a great coach someday but you have got to work for it and he needs to grow up and knock all the silly things he does on the head

I think we may underestimate the thrill and excitement a play gets from playing week in and week out. The adrenaline, the adulation of the fans, the impact, the competition, these are all things a player will no longer experience once retired.

So while it often can be be a bit like 'What now?!' it can also be a matter of 'I'm never, ever going to experience that thrill ever again' which can be a main contributor to depression.

yes i do, and thanks to the moderators who didnt follow the knee jerk reaction of many who disagreed with my point of view.

its been pointed out about the lateness of my post, and that it was perhaps alcohol induced? It wasnt, it was tiredness induced, a badly constructed rushed affair that failed to detail any reasons for my generalisation.

Depression (clinical depression) isnt something to be taken lightly, its very serious, and can affect a persons everyday life, and the lives of friends and family. A depressive generally loses interest in normal everyday things, work, family, social activities etc etc.
Unfortunately there are many many cases where people say they have depression when they dont. They have problems. In same cases its an excuse to stay in bed, laziness. They are "under the weather" not "depressed". Those were the kind of people i was referring to. People who use the word as an excuse to bury their head in the sand regarding lifes problems.

Has Sean Long been clinically diagnosed as having depression? or do we just have his word for it? and quite frankly, given his track record, i wouldnt believe much that he says.

During this period that he was "depressed" he got a job in coaching, enthusiastically pursued opening his town centre bar, and as far as i know, enjoyed life with his kids. I could be wrong, but that doesnt sound like a man with depression.

However, i'm not qualified to recognise whars depression and what isnt, and neither i suspect is anyone else on here.

Thats my take on the situation, and hope i have cleared up a few things. Many of you will probably still disagree with me, but thats life.

I wont be posting any further in this thread, and hope we can draw a line under it.

If ive offended anyone with my original post, i would like to apologise. Not for my point of view, but for the way it was badly put across, and if Im totally wrong with my assumptions that Mr Long doesnt have Clinical Depression, then i would like to apologise to him too, and wish him a speedy recovery.

I don't think you have done yourself any favours here. In fact, you've probably done more damage than you're original post.

What you're doing now is insinuating that he is making it all up and saying he has depression when in fact he hasn't. Unbelievable.

You are displaying an extreme lack of knowledge on this subject.

Trying to kill himself is a bit of a give away. Medical science isn't yet at a level where it can litmus test depression. This reminds me of when people didn't believe Garry Speed was depressed just because he seemed alright in an interview days before he comitted suicide.