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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I can't think of many who came back and picked up where they left off.
Henry Paul and Iestyn Harris were shadows of their former selves - and as for Karl Pryce and Lee Smith ... Crikey! Blokes I know who watch RU reckon Joel and Kyle are nothing like they were.
I doubt emotion will come into it. The lessons of history ought to dictate that the first thing Union does to these lads is teach them to forget how to play high-level rugby.'"
It's only a matter of time before Joel Tomkins and Kyle Eastmond are back in RL ranks. As you've quite rightly suggested neither are anything like they were.
I suppose there is 1 exception to that "they don't come back the same" rule in Iain Thornley. Looked like he had never been away! Mind you he is young enough to adapt easily.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"It's only a matter of time before Joel Tomkins and Kyle Eastmond are back in RL ranks. As you've quite rightly suggested neither are anything like they were.
I suppose there is 1 exception to that "they don't come back the same" rule in Iain Thornley. Looked like he had never been away! Mind you he is young enough to adapt easily.'"
If they do come back, we need to make a real song and dance about it - not necessarily expressing delight, because they'll require a lot of speed to get up to SL standard, but to point out that the grass isn't always greener.
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| Gutted, massive loss to RL, massive waste of talent.
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| Good luck to him. He owes RL nothing. Anyone who says they wouldn't leave a job for a much better paid one is a lying hypocrite. How can he be getting all this abuse? If the powers that be upped their game they could stop this sort of thing from happening. If you want to wave fingers then do it aimed towards the men that run our leagues.
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| Quote Cherry_Warrior="Cherry_Warrior"Good luck to him. He owes RL nothing. Anyone who says they wouldn't leave a job for a much better paid one is a lying hypocrite.'"
This 100%
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| Quote Cherry_Warrior="Cherry_Warrior"Good luck to him. He owes RL nothing. Anyone who says they wouldn't leave a job for a much better paid one is a lying hypocrite. How can he be getting all this abuse? If the powers that be upped their game they could stop this sort of thing from happening. If you want to wave fingers then do it aimed towards the men that run our leagues.'"
Agree, BUT we as a game don't have the money and that's the point we all have to keep coming back to.
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| Quote Cherry_Warrior="Cherry_Warrior"Good luck to him. He owes RL nothing. Anyone who says they wouldn't leave a job for a much better paid one is a lying hypocrite. How can he be getting all this abuse? If the powers that be upped their game they could stop this sort of thing from happening. If you want to wave fingers then do it aimed towards the men that run our leagues.'"
True though this may be, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be very upset that yet another star player has deserted our game.
The looking for other gigs business mid-contract is also getting a bit difficult to swallow. That rather suggests that quite a few of these players and their agents have less integrity than we'd like.
Pat Richards pointedly didn't leave Wigan until his contract was over.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"True though this may be, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be very upset that yet another star player has deserted our game.
The looking for other gigs business mid-contract is also getting a bit difficult to swallow. That rather suggests that quite a few of these players and their agents have less integrity than we'd like.
Pat Richards pointedly didn't leave Wigan until his contract was over.'"
True regarding Pat Richards but were similar offers on the table for him? I doubt it.
I suspect the money being offered to Burgess was significantly more than what he could get in RL.
It would actually be refreshing for player's to just come out with the truth - ambition and fresh challenges aside its all about earning as much money as possible in a short career.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I don't blame him for wanting to get rich. But he can hardly have been on peanuts at Souths - we were told repeatedly that he was hooked on the Sydney lifestyle and that nothing we could offer would ever lure him back home.
Bewildering.'"
I am somewhat confused as well. The NRL is cash-rich and player sponsorship does not count on their salary cap.
So if they have a poster boy there is nothing to stop them from coming to a sponsorship deal to keep him in the game.
I can only conclude they don't want to bother. Maybe if Burgess or the likes of SBW got such a deal it would put other clubs noses out of joint.
I don't know but I find it disappointing when you can actually compete money-wise like the NRL can, you don't bother.
I wonder if they are as bad when it comes to the bigger picture of marketing the game as we believe our lot are!
Why Burgess wants to try RU I am not sure.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"True regarding Pat Richards but were similar offers on the table for him? I doubt it.
I suspect the money being offered to Burgess was significantly more than what he could get in RL.
It would actually be refreshing for player's to just come out with the truth - ambition and fresh challenges aside its all about earning as much money as possible in a short career.'"
I don't disagree, but I can't accept that players trying to duck out of contracts mid-term are not deserving of some criticism. It isn't exactly a mark of trustworthiness.
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| Covered pretty much by this post on the VT. This is not a new trend but it is now a constant one with no conceivable chance of being reversed.
Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"All this wailing is ridiculous. Superleague has taken a decision to cut off access to the world's best players by sticking with a very low cap. Some people think this is good for the game, some don't, but it's what's been decided. If you seriously think world-class players in their prime are going to come from the NRL or RU to Superleague, you're delusional. We made the decision to block money out of the game in order to allow the likes of Wakefield to 'catch up'. It was a never going to be without consequences, so all we can do is live with those consequences. Blaming players, former players, whatever, is a load of BS. We set it up this way, for better or worse. Can't have it both ways. Nothing will change in respect of attracting world-class players with the current system in place, so get used to it. SL is in, at best, the 'second tier' of world rugby, by choice.'"
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| Quote JTB="JTB"Covered pretty much by this post on the VT. This is not a new trend but it is now a constant one with no conceivable chance of being reversed.
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That makes grim reading, but I don't think there's anything there I'd honestly disagree with.
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