Matty Smith isnt cutting it for me at the minute, I really like the lad and want him to succeed but after a good start his kicks are starting to just go straight down the oppositions neck (is this some kind of wigan kicking curse? we could sign Danny Brough and he would come here and be a kicker within 3 months) and IMO he is constantly making poor decisions in attack.

really? thought they were pretty crap all things considered,

I agree, if I was a Leeds fan, id be pretty dissapointed to only just beat the side we had out by 4 points.

We missed our senior pack men last night.
First half we could hadly get to the 40 mtr line. We were only in their half three times IIRC. What saved us was Matty Smith's kicking game. Long range, low trejectory amost always finding the ground. Watkins showed what he can do with the ball in hand but he had was turned around on a number of occasions.
We could really do with getting some lads back.

if my maths is correct you have us finishing 5th?
that;ll do me nicely

The same could be said for any team if the wrong result comes in a crunch game. No matter what, sh*t happens!

Not exactly, any win against you lot's always welcome. And besides, we weren't too far off our best, at least defensively. Rather than disappointed, I'm slightly uneasy. I thought Wigan were pretty good and with a full complement of players might actually pose more of a threat than us later in the season. I hadn't thought that until now but I saw enough last night in your performance to suggest you're in for some silverware - if you can keep Sam and keep your players injury-free.

I thought he did pretty well, considering he was kicking from deep in our own half most of the time.

This is the pertinent point. With 7 players out from what, pre-season, was likely to be our first choice line up including the bulk of our pack and the reigning man of steel, to lose to a near full-strength Leeds team in their own back yard by only 4 points should be giving confidence for the back end of the season. In the end it will, in all probability, come down to injuries, or lack of them! With Mossop, Prescott, Hanson and Luaki available that pack is a completely different proposition. Add Sam into the mix and you all but have a different team. That's not to say the young lads aren't doing us proud. However it's asking too much to expect them to beat all before them week after week. That's where experience is invaluable. Full strength we can bet anyone. What these last few weeks have proven is that, on our day, even understrength we are still among the best in the competition.

Good to see that some can see a bigger picture...

I feel much better about our chances of winning silverware now than I did in January. Take out any team's best attacker (Sam), both starting props (Prescott and Mossop) and one second rower (Hansen) and they'll struggle way more than we our still getting used to playing without Hock. We'll be well capable of beating any team once these lads are back from injury and the Green/Smith and Thornley/Richards combos have had some time to gel, not to mention the raft of new faces we have this season who are bound to improve as the season progresses. I'm just glad Wane's not throwing any half fit players out there (Richards excepting), we need everyone fit and in form at the business end of the season.

That was obviously Leeds' full strength team last night. Have a word.

I think this year of all years we were going to have a slow start. New players, new combinations, injuries galore. I think we are in great shape to win the LLS, and for years to come.

A win against Wigan is always welcome.Lots of Leeds errors, didn't get out of second gear and they still won which pleases me; now I know they are saving it for the business end of the season.