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| Quote Odem="Odem"I would like to see the coaches have a vote. They watch the games more than anyone.'"
I think the coaches would be the best judges. They watch the players the most and make plans to stop other teams danger men so will really be focussing on that particular seasons best players. I think the majority are sensible enough to vote fairly on the issue as well.
It could be no worse then the journo's or players voting for it going off past results.
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| TBH The player's player is the best way to go about it. Just because you don't agree with the result, doesn't mean they can't be 'trusted'.
If a panel of his peers vote Chase MoS, then he is MoS, you can't complain just because you feel Sam was the better player, that's your opinion, in the Player's opinion Chase was better. I have no problem with that.
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"TBH The player's player is the best way to go about it. Just because you don't agree with the result, doesn't mean they can't be 'trusted'.
If a panel of his peers vote Chase MoS, then he is MoS, you can't complain just because you feel Sam was the better player, that's your opinion, in the Player's opinion Chase was better. I have no problem with that.'"
The argument some people are making though is that some players will have voted for Rangi Chase not because they thought he was better than Sam Tomkins, but because they simply don't like Sam Tomkins & wouldn't want to see him win it.
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"The argument some people are making though is that some players will have voted for Rangi Chase not because they thought he was better than Sam Tomkins, but because they simply don't like Sam Tomkins & wouldn't want to see him win it.'"
Spot on. Nobody can actually claim that Chase is a better player than Sam.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"Spot on. Nobody can actually claim that Chase is a better player than Sam.'"
You would have thought the whole of Leeds would have boycotted voting for Tomkins and a few other clubs with bitter players would have done the same purely based on jealousy and the fact he's embarrassed many of them on the field. MOS appears to be a personality contest amongst the players who have stood out the most during the season.
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"The argument some people are making though is that some players will have voted for Rangi Chase not because they thought he was better than Sam Tomkins, but because they simply don't like Sam Tomkins & wouldn't want to see him win it.'"
Do you have any proof of this? To say they didn't vote for him because they don't like him is a wild accusation to make without any proof.
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Do you have any proof of this? To say they didn't vote for him because they don't like him is a wild accusation to make without any proof.'"
Who had a bigger impact on Super League 2011, Sam Tomkins or Rangi Chase?
If your answer is Sam Tomkins you must concede the only reason other player's didn't vote for him is because they don't like him.
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Do you have any proof of this? To say they didn't vote for him because they don't like him is a wild accusation to make without any proof.'"
Do you have any proof (other than the tainted MOS award) that Rangi Chase is even fit to lace Sam's boots when it comes to being SuperLeague's best player?
To say that he won the vote WITHOUT tactical voting for "anyone but that finger-flicking Tomkins", therefore saying that he is, in fact, a better player, is quite simply beyond being "a wild accusation".
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| Tomkins was better then Chase in 2011
Tomkins is a far better player then Chase overall
Both cold facts IMO yet Sam didn't win the MOS award and why? Pure jealousy as far as I can see and it comes down to a popularity contest amoungst the best 4 or 5 players IMO.
Let the coaches pick it.
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| I think its far more likely that tomkins and roby split the vote as both had cracking seasons. Honestly the bitterness on this board is unbelievable, you all act like theres a huge conspiracy against wigan by the people that run the game, its ridiculous
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| For me the best player last year was Roby! He carried Saints to the Grand Final. Rangi Chase missed a simple dg to get Cas to a CCF and went missing after that as Cas finished outside the playoffs . It was a joke how he won it.
Dont know how feasible it is but they should publish who voted for who in my opinion! Therefor you could judge if Tomkins was boycotted by certain teams and who actually voted for Chase!
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| Quote jarvis12345="jarvis12345"For me the best player last year was Roby! He carried Saints to the Grand Final. Rangi Chase missed a simple dg to get Cas to a CCF and went missing after that as Cas finished outside the playoffs . It was a joke how he won it.
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I think you wildly underestimate the influence of James Graham on that Saints team - the proof of which has been seen in Saints early season form despite Roby being his usual ball hogging / stat filling self until his injury.
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