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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"It's one coach and two players - Barrett and Piggy.'"
He didn't say Coach - he said players.
And whilst two is technically correct it would be poor form to hold it against Piggy (it wasn't as though he didn't have good reasons).
Barrett yes, I agree was a let down excuse.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"1) Name Wigan's current Aussie imports who are 'at the back end of their careers' at the point of signing?
2) How many times (in the last decade) have we been 'stung' by an Aussie player who has left part way though his contract?
I'll tell you. None and one.
Throughout the last thirty years Wigan have always had a good backbone of quality Wigan youth in the first team squad, along with a sprinkling of quality imports........long may it continue.
Good job you are not Maurice Lindsay back in the 80's, we wouldn't have seen Brett Kenny / John Ferguson / Greg Dowling / Gene Miles at the club and instead we'd have had John Gilfillan and Steven Blakeley, Sean Tyrer...etc in their positions instead.'"
Easy.
Steve Renouf
Mark Riddell
Trent Barrett
Adrian Lamb
Amos Roberts
etc.
Now lets look at the top Aus players, Billy Slater, Cam Smith, Greg Inglis Jarryd Hayne, do you think any of them would come to play SL? No. They only come over when around 30 for a big contract at the back end of their careers. I.e Fitzgibbon. Mason etc.
Why back these in place of some fantastic home grown products? I wouldn't. The majority of our improves of recent years haven't paid off.
I'd sooner put the cap back into the system and develop from within. Here you'l get a player who will play for the shirt and not leave early to return to Aus.
I'd sooner invest in a team featuring wigan or wigan trained lads.
Tomkins x3
Mossop
Tuson
Prescott
McM
Faz
Lockers
Hock
Charnley
Marsh
King
Russell
Crosby
These are the future.
PS, How old was Miles when he came over? How long did Kenny and Ferguson stay around for? Sorry pal, I'd take Shaun Edwards and his career over them any day.
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| Did you go to the 1985 Challenge Cup Final?
Think Shaun's medal collection would have been 2 losers medals had BK & JF not been at Wembley that day.
Your mental if you think that we could field 17 Wiganers weekly and be successful.
Your opinion of course.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Did you go to the 1985 Challenge Cup Final?
Think Shaun's medal collection would have been 2 losers medals had BK & JF not been at Wembley that day.
Your mental if you think that we could field 17 Wiganers weekly and be successful.
Your opinion of course.'"
I never said that. I said I'll be backing Wigan players and a Wigan coaching staff first. With thiswe won't have Oz players coming over for a final payday or a coach who's using our club to try his hand at being a number 1.
What I did say is, how old was Miles when he came over? How long did he stay for? Say compare that to Edwards? We can all pick and chose our examples.
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| I certainly hope Shaun Wane gets the job because I can't help but feel utterly jipped at MM's decision to go back to Aus. Like it or not we cannot expect to field a team of Wigan produced players and expect to win things I wish we could but we can't, I fully understand the arguement for it, but sady its never going to happen. I cannot help but be disappointed that another influential Aussie (the most influential Aussie of recent times) has decided to get on his toes as soon as something more to his taste comes up.
Are we giving out three year deals with a "pi55 off when you feel like it" clause?
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| Quote Rubber Buccaneer="Rubber Buccaneer"I certainly hope Shaun Wane gets the job because I can't help but feel utterly jipped at MM's decision to go back to Aus. Like it or not we cannot expect to field a team of Wigan produced players and expect to win things I wish we could but we can't, I fully understand the arguement for it, but sady its never going to happen. I cannot help but be disappointed that another influential Aussie (the most influential Aussie of recent times) has decided to get on his toes as soon as something more to his taste comes up.
Are we giving out three year deals with a "pi55 off when you feel like it" clause?'"
Totally agree. Can't see Wane, Radz Deacond etc pulling that trick.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I never said that. I said I'll be backing Wigan players and a Wigan coaching staff first. With thiswe won't have Oz players coming over for a final payday or a coach who's using our club to try his hand at being a number 1.
What I did say is, how old was Miles when he came over? How long did he stay for? Say compare that to Edwards? We can all pick and chose our examples.'"
Gene Miles for me was probably the finest centre I've seen at Wigan in thirty years and a legend of the game. When Offiah came to Wigan mid through Miles's season (91-92) he ran tries in for fun, most of them laid on by Miles (30 tries in 15 games), compared to Offiah only scoring 30 tries in 38 games the year after.
We should welcome quality imports - you tell me you wouldn't have a 30 year old Mark Gasnier next season on a 2 year deal to replace Gleeson's vacant centre spot? I bloody would....Goulding would score a panful.
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| Going forward i'd like to think we'll keep a good working relationship with Maguire and use his hands of knowledge in the NRL when choosing which players to sign.
Having that kind of guy on hand to give some advice can only be a positive thing.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"You tell me you wouldn't have a 30 year old Mark Gasnier next season on a 2 year deal to replace Gleeson's vacant centre spot? I bloody would....Goulding would score a panful.'"
Would depend on the contract he wanted, don't want to go back to the bad times when a few players earned a fortune whilst local talent fed every other team in Super League.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Gene Miles for me was probably the finest centre I've seen at Wigan in thirty years and a legend of the game. When Offiah came to Wigan mid through Miles's season (91-92) he ran tries in for fun, most of them laid on by Miles (30 tries in 15 games), compared to Offiah only scoring 30 tries in 38 games the year after.
We should welcome quality imports - you tell me you wouldn't have a 30 year old Mark Gasnier next season on a 2 year deal to replace Gleeson's vacant centre spot? I bloody would....Goulding would score a panful.'"
I think we agree within reason. I do see your point, but I would and will always back Wigan players first and foremost, more so in a SC era. I'd sooner see a Wigan coach and Wigan star players, it means more to them, this reflects in length of term at the club and key years spend in a Wigan shirt.
IMO it's better to invest in what we're developing rather than use that money on an Aus import looking for a final payday who doesn't care about the club in the same way.
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| Quote Bergen Bulldog="Bergen Bulldog"Would depend on the contract he wanted, don't want to go back to the bad times when a few players earned a fortune whilst local talent fed every other team in Super League.'"
Of course not. Just using his name as an example. Remember these are IL deals not ML/DW. 
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| Quote Bergen Bulldog="Bergen Bulldog"Would depend on the contract he wanted, don't want to go back to the bad times when a few players earned a fortune whilst local talent fed every other team in Super League.'"
Exactly, imports and poor management of the SC led to our demise during a poor era.
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