That is the same with all of our players! A new coach with a new team, he should get more out of some, especially Feka, Pryce, Riddell and Roberts.

Your slow decline from fullback to gasping forward illustrates this perfectly

How you can possibly consider keeping Karl Pryce before any of the others astounds me.

I know it looks bizarre but I really think that with the right coaching motivation and encouragement he'll come good. Age is one his side plus he has all the physical attributes to make it, I'm sure he'll become a good player for us after all he's got a year to prove himself or that's it.

If Bailey stays if could get a one year deal, same applies to Carmont.
That could be another two added to the list.
Plenty opprtunity for Maguire to sort out who he wants and those he doesn't.

I believe pre season training begins on the 16th November

What about Phelps?

Don't get me wrong I like Phelps but I'd like to see Veivers get a go and see whether he's up to it, plus he's British and therefore doesn't take up a quota spot which are going to become increasingly valuable as the quota decreases.

Fair enough.

If Vievers (who i haven't seen play yet btw) has the talent and can develop like Phelps can them i'm more than happy for him to have a go as well.

Looks like it could be a big season not only for Phelps but Vievers at Wakey next season!

Also heard a rumour that we may be playing Saints away in a friendly on 27th December, then Wire away and two other friendly games before the season starts.

Me too - we might as well bring back Vaealiki

At least give KP a full pre season, he hasn't had that chance to have one yet since being at Wigan and from talking to a couple of ex Wigan players and a current Wigan player this is when the real hard training is done, might be just what he needs.