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| may i add i agree to give others a chance, especially this weekend. Just make sure that we are respectful and get the job done at the same time.
with everyone drawing each other in the cup, this is our best chance for years of possibly winning it or at least getting to the final. Very similar to portsmouth winning the FA cup last year.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Hansen can tackle. doesn't offer much else. give the others a shot.'"
Hanson is a quality player he does more than just tackle.
He runs some great lines and has no fear, he always puts the effort in, he is one of my favourite players as a fan.
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| Give Mossop a game against Barrow and rest Hock and Joel for Saints and Catalans and if Mossop impresses against Barrow and continues well in the reserves give him a go against Celtic who we have at home after Catalans
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| Hansen may run strong lines but what is his tackle bust rate? offload rate? Has he ever drawn in a man then pasted the ball along? Ever looked like doing something in attack without someone else putting him through the gap? Far and few between.
He may try hard, but he simply isn't good enough, a quiet lad who tries hard, sorry but this isn't enough. Raise the bar at Wigan, he's not good enough.
I respect people's opinions and I know he's liked by some, but for me he's not good enough.
After Ferrell/Mossop/Flanny has a good game and plays better you'll agree.
For me Hansen (his type of player) is one of the issues with Wigan. Someone who is a 'try hard' but not good enough. Lets build a team of winners.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Hansen may run strong lines but what is his tackle bust rate? offload rate? Has he ever drawn in a man then pasted the ball along? Ever looked like doing something in attack without someone else putting him through the gap? Far and few between.
He may try hard, but he simply isn't good enough, a quiet lad who tries hard, sorry but this isn't enough. Raise the bar at Wigan, he's not good enough.
I respect people's opinions and I know he's liked by some, but for me he's not good enough.
After Ferrell/Mossop/Flanny has a good game and plays better you'll agree.
For me Hansen (his type of player) is one of the issues with Wigan. Someone who is a 'try hard' but not good enough. Lets build a team of winners.'"
I agree with you. Might sound harsh as he's clearly a hard worker but people need to keep asking the question - does this player belong in a potential title winning team? I don't know if Hansen does.
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| Exactly Mad dog.
Let's build a winning team. Not a team of 'try hards', worse thing is he's keeping out talent that deserves a place.
Build a team of winners
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Richards Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins NEW 7
NEW 8 Tommy NEW 10
Farrell Lockers
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Give Roberts/Pryce/O Carroll time, but so far I don't see a winner.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Exactly Mad dog.
Let's build a winning team. Not a team of 'try hards', worse thing is he's keeping out talent that deserves a place.
Build a team of winners
NEW FB
Richards Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins NEW 7
NEW 8 Tommy NEW 10
Farrell Lockers
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Hock Feka Riddell Prescott
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Give Roberts/Pryce/O Carroll time, but so far I don't see a winner.'"
You can add a new coach to that list if we wana win anything
I can't see a title challenging team being formed for at least 2 seasons yet though
If we got it right for next season we could do but I can't see it happening
However this gives the youngsters a chance to stake their claim before players are brought in which is a good thing
Whether we like it or not patience is going to be needed
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| Has anyone ever heard the saying "Defense wins games"? Hansen is currently in joint second place for try scoring 2nd rows (Joint 3rd in the team) and offers a huge defensive input to the team. Yet he offers nothing in attack and just because he is defensively brilliant and not doing spectacular things in attack he should be dropped?
I'm glad there's a lot of posters on this site not running the team.
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| I don't want to sound as though I'm bagging Hansen but I really do see it as an attitude thing. In my opinion, I don't think he is fully applying himself nor do I think he currently has the ambition to stand out from the rest and have something unique about him.
And the reasons for the above, again in my opinion, is because since the arrival of Feka and Leuluai he seems to be close friends and enjoy the company of a couple of fellow kiwis/islanders and is content to hold on to a first team place rather than standing out, being different and have that bit of unique style about him. At the end of the day, he was raised in Swinton and played for Folly Lane from being 8 or 9 maybe younger and he came through all the ranks at Wigan, yet since the arrival of fellow, young islanders and the inclusion of the Samoa squad he seems to have distanced himself from his roots & many team mates and you sometimes forget that he came through those ranks with Wigan.
I think he's got caught up with the Islander Rugby League lifestyle and enjoys that more than his Rugby League. A drop down into the reserves away from his ''homies'' and replace them with the type of lads he actually grew up playing along side will do him a world of good and could get rid of abit of arrogance and instead replace it with more ambition and determination.
A pretty controversial and personal post but it's my opinion.
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| Quote newton warrior="newton warrior"I know Coley is a scape goat, but this is very harsh. He set up two of Wigans tries against Salford and Baileys try on Friday from his off loads.'"
Don't be daft. A few good things doesn't make him immune from more than deserved criticism.
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| Mossop debuted in one of the Cup thrashings last year, scored a try too I think. Has he played a league game yet?
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| Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"
A pretty controversial and personal post but it's my opinion.'"
You are not wrong there, I could even argue it's racist with those Islanders and their island ways.
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