They have this down to a fine art do the rhinos,
seen it lots last weekend when they played wire,
2 or 3 men in the tackle and one will rip or reef the ball away very smartly,

thought hock was unlucky on a few occasions this evening,
having the ball ripped away....

true...leeds were good in the 1st half, i'm not going down the road of sack noble because we need consistency within our great club, once this comes and we stop swapping and changing the team we will return to our great days once more. keep tommy and sam at halves for the next few years to come and hopefully bring more young wigan lads through the ranks whan they are ready

I still think we'll go well this year though, tonight was just a bad day at the office

Welcome to the life of a Leeds fan, we get every single match

Is it just the refs fault or should the touch judges stand up and be counted.
What part do they actually play apart from stating the obvious ie where a ball as left the field and if its gone thru the sticks for a converstion oh and not forgeting having a little trip onto the field of play when theres a little punch up.

Yes, the ref missed Hock having the ball stripped out, but the same thing happened to Peacock later in the game. Peacock got the benefit of the doubt for his try but the game was over before that. I don't really have any complaints about our disallowed tries - Ainscough looked offside from the kick and lockers just stopped right in front of the Leeds player - if he had kept on running like dummy runners are supposed to then it wouldn't have been an obstruction. The ref wasn't great, but then again, neither were we...

Half of us Saints fans said how bad this guy was when we lost to Hull Kr, and many on here said it was just sour grapes because we had lost. Maybe some will agree now? The guy is too slow for Super league standard and shouldn't be allowed to ref.

The man isn't up to the standard.

Noble simpily needs to say that, an experience tells us we won't see him again this year.

The video ref was no better.

Up until tonight I always rated Ian Smith as a pretty decent ref, not sure if it was an off night or what but he had a shocker.

That said bad calls and all nobody can have any complaints about the overall result.

I sent a text to a Stains fan during the game and he said exactly that, Smith screwed you against Hull KR. Some very inconsistant refereeing tonight. It's bad enough losing a game - and Wigan didn't deserve to win tonight - but when the ref rubs your nose in it, it just takes the pi$$.

Very frustrating

refs seem to assume Hock as lost the ball every time, he never seems to get the BOTD, penalty against Wigan every time. Opposition players know this and play for it

Ah Well!!! we can try to get Ashley Klein back to our shores,,,If his Missus wants to come back over here!!!! Which i very much doubt..

I've just watched the first half and will watch the second tomorrow.

Leeds 1st try forward pass from Sinfield.
Leeds third try forward pas from Kirke, watch where he is tackled and watch where the ball bonces before it get's to Donald.

When things are going for you you get these decisions.

Hock loss of the ball once yes, but the other two were ball steals.
All marginal decisions, but ones that went against Wigan.

On another day they will go for us.

No lack of effort tonight. Leeds played well and took their chances, but we certainly didn't get any luck whatsoever.