Not sure the players need a dressing-down, maybe a little education on what Cherry and White means to us mere mortals.

As for putting the cards on the table for Noble, bugger it, just GIVE Noble his cards!

Personally I think it is too soon in the season to get rid of BN, when he first came to us he did get us out of the brown and smelly, so i think he should be given a bit more time.although he needs to give ainscough, mossop etc more first team experience, The more senior players should take a step forward and change lockers as captain i`m sorry but he ain`t no leader.

Bit late for that

Oh ye of little IQ if you read the threads you would understand that we are stll at the beginning of the season so the past few weeks don`t mean diddly squat

So why all the moaning and calling for the coaches head if the last few weeks mean "diddly squat"?

Oh no if you read them you would see I said he should be given more time, so who is moaning??
the other problems with marketing have been a on going problem
If you are going to post so called funny remarks at least get your facts right first.

Time? He's had 2 1/2 years. The Noble Stays/Noble Goes is on another thread. I respect your position but respectfully disagree.

. You.
Any of the following statements ring any bells?

From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
A chairman that seems to be a yes man, does not seem to have a back bone
A coach that won`t give local talent a chance.
Players that don`t have any pride

Any of the following statements ring any bells?

From the coach with no plan B
From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.
A chairman that seems to be a yes man, does not seem to have a back bone
A coach that won`t give local talent a chance.
Players that don`t have any pride


coach with no plan B ( When you have a tired or beaten pack you have halfbacks with no room you can have ten different plans and it won't make any difference in honesty ) no coach drops a ball or misses a tackle its how they and the team respond .

From the load of second rate antipodean alleged boozers recruited for the team.

So pleased you said alleged and during the Wigan heyday you NEVER saw any player in the pubs and clubs of Wigan did you ?

A chairman that seems to be a yes man, does not seem to have a back bone

enough backbone to put his money into a sport and a team and not go for the QUICK fix just because things are not going right

A coach that won`t give local talent a chance I love this one against Hull Wigan had 7 yes thats SEVEN players in the starting 17 that have all come through the Wigan acadamy side ! against Cass we had 8 yes eight who have come through the ranks pity Noble won't give LOCAL or YOUTH a chance

Players that don`t have any pride I don't know how many of the players you know but i don't think any of them lack pride and i suspect every player you speak to will show that there pride is hurting just as much if not more than the fans

but unlike the fans they will keep it quiet and attempt to use it as a motivating force for the next game

for me i will be getting behind the team and support them through the bad times and i am sure it will feel a whole lot sweeter when the good times do come back to the club

My Dad is even older and played the game as a kid and was friends with some former greats when at school and what he has to say is not complimentary.



This is the only thing I will take issue with you in your post. That problem was part of the process of extricating the club from the DW/JJB empire.

Mick Hogan is doing a good job on this front.

Dave

Yep. Thats the bulk of it in a nutshell.

I totally agree, yesterday I parked up at Tesco car park near the bronze rugby ball statue. Being a saints supporter I remembered every year going to central park and the place was the heart and soul of rugby league.
Now when I go to the JJB it seems the share of ownership with the football doesn,t work, the pride and soul of rugby is not there, but has been replaced by an one crisis after another. The club is always looking for a quick fix when it should be looking for its lost soul.