FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > HH-missed? |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Wigan Peer "But,
You made a statement which others disagree with.
You later said you wanted to free up "Wigan based talent", which HH is.
You have been given numerous reasons why people do not agree with you.
You have responded to peoples views with insults and rants.
You have taken one slant on an arguement to justify yourself and others have disagreed.
You have choosen to ignore all the views of others, even if they can see the merit of your arguement, But have given you reasons why they don't agree with you. If you can't take people disagreeing with you, maybe you should refrain from opening a thread.'"
The Wigan based talent was a totally separate issue. It was an argument I was all for.
This thread is about was Hansen missed, so the Wigan based talent has nothing to do with it.
People can disagree with me, thats fair enough, shame that the majority (like yourself) don't even understand the OP.
I have used insults in retaliation to the many insults I have received first.
I have argued a point, which I still agree with, you don't even probably understand the OP.
Keep it coming.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: MattyB "1. We all know what it was about.
"Look at me, Look at me". "I was right from a few weeks ago".
2. To attempt to make everyone who disagree with your 'opinion' look foolish.
I'd say both attempts crashed and burned looking over the last 9 pages.
So what was my intial point? Please show you know what the entire thread is about, because as it stands you look a little silly arguing for the sake of it.
I don't mind disagreement, I do mind abuse which I then have to retaliate against.
Come on MattyB, you can do it!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5846 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jul 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
Big Steve wrote:
The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
|
| I'm off to clean behind my fridge....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20464 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
[/color:2boqkfe7][/b:2boqkfe7]: |
|
| THE GLORIOUS OP
Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Just a quick reminder of a certain comment I was really ripped into over, a comment I made documenting how I said Harrison wouldn't be missed.
So let's review it stats men-have we missed him? We've won every single game since he was injured. Thats the only stat you really need to look at.
We recorded our most impressive win over quins in his absence.
All in all the answer no matter which silly stat you through at it, we've not missed him.'"
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 20464 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
[/color:2boqkfe7][/b:2boqkfe7]: |
|
| Quote: Wigan Peer "I'm off to clean behind my fridge....'"
Can I give you a hand?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 68 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
51755_1278208957.jpg Attention Dire fans and trolls: NOT on the bandwagon, despite the join date. Those of us who were forced to watch Dennis Moran play in Cherry & White deserved to see Lockers lift that trophy at Old Trafford.
[img:3lpepmvq]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/202cd4108c.jpg[/img:3lpepmvq]
Saints aren't Scouse.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51755.jpg |
|
| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "For what reason?'"
Because I thought the post was a perfectly valid question related to the topic of whether or not HH was missed. I simply asked the question to gain a better understanding of your opinion (which you are perfectly entitled to, although I disagree with it) by asking you to clarify a point you made.
Namely this bit as we have players who can do what he can do.'"
I was just wondering who you had in mind?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1865 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2018 | Oct 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Long Live The Pearl !!!!: |
|
| back to the original question, no we havent missed hansen as of yet but at the moment when all fit he would still be in the 17 with out question. With hock and fielden back then i dont know. Think it will be a 50/50 one. I personally would leave him out as i prefer both mossop and farrell and then hock and fielden will come in for hansen and lima. Thats just my opinion though! I actually dont think mcguire will though.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Wigan Peer "I'm off to clean behind my fridge....'"
Whatever floats your boat. If you don't understand something just ask. As the OP poster I am always willing to justify my point, no one has to agree with it. But I will discuss it.
PS I only name call when attacked.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
|
Quote: Lucky XIII "Because I thought the post was a perfectly valid question related to the topic of whether or not HH was missed. I simply asked the question to gain a better understanding of your opinion (which you are perfectly entitled to, although I disagree with it) by asking you to clarify a point you made.
Namely this bit
Sure
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
Look at his direct replacement.
|
|
Quote: Lucky XIII "Because I thought the post was a perfectly valid question related to the topic of whether or not HH was missed. I simply asked the question to gain a better understanding of your opinion (which you are perfectly entitled to, although I disagree with it) by asking you to clarify a point you made.
Namely this bit
Sure
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
Look at his direct replacement.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 68 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Jun 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
51755_1278208957.jpg Attention Dire fans and trolls: NOT on the bandwagon, despite the join date. Those of us who were forced to watch Dennis Moran play in Cherry & White deserved to see Lockers lift that trophy at Old Trafford.
[img:3lpepmvq]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/202cd4108c.jpg[/img:3lpepmvq]
Saints aren't Scouse.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51755.jpg |
|
|
Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Sure
Except that Liam Farrell wasn't Hansen's direct replacement. They are both fully fledged first-team players in their own right. I'd call neither a squad player.
Hansen and Farrell were both in the squad when HH was ruled out. His direct replacement (i.e. the player who came into the 17 the week after to replace him) was Chris Tuson.
So I urge you to have a look at his direct replacement: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
|
|
Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Sure
Except that Liam Farrell wasn't Hansen's direct replacement. They are both fully fledged first-team players in their own right. I'd call neither a squad player.
Hansen and Farrell were both in the squad when HH was ruled out. His direct replacement (i.e. the player who came into the 17 the week after to replace him) was Chris Tuson.
So I urge you to have a look at his direct replacement: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Lucky XIII "Except that Liam Farrell wasn't Hansen's direct replacement. They are both fully fledged first-team players in their own right. I'd call neither a squad player.
Hansen and Farrell were both in the squad when HH was ruled out. His direct replacement (i.e. the player who came into the 17 the week after to replace him) was Chris Tuson.
So I urge you to have a look at his direct replacement:
Farrell is his direct replacement. Hansen was a starter and Faz on the bench, this naturally is a direct comparison when other factors like mins on the pitch and starts come into play.
Tuson only has 6 appearances to his name, his minutes are going to be vastly less.
Faz is the direct comparison, and as you can see is performing better. But you are naturally entitled to your opinion.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 271 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2013 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
29695.jpg :29695.jpg |
|
| “Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.”
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I seriously have nothing against Hansen, he's a solid player who works hard. I just have something against the abuse for suggesting he won't be missed.
Lets be honest, we have other players who can do what he can do, thankfully due to the depth we have in our squad.
In comparison if Lockers, Sam or Pat was injured long term we can't directly replace them.
That's the basis of it.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 12006 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2019 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
6278_1381491357.jpg [b:3ekusm3q][color=#FF0000:3ekusm3q]WIGAN RLFC[/color:3ekusm3q][/b:3ekusm3q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6278.jpg |
|
| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Don't you watch the games?'"
I agree. Our 18 and 30+ point defeats were because of kicking
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: space_cowgirl "“Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.”
I like it!
But it was the only way to directly answer the question in this instance.
|
|
|
|
|
|