And it's worth saying again he had a reputation as the best up and coming coach in the game, hence the recommendation by Bennett and Bellamy - if they're happy to put him on that pedestal what makes you such an expert we should believe you rather than them? Thankfully Lenegan listened to them, was proved 100% correct and we're now champions, but more importantly with a completely different attitude and ethos from even 18 months ago. I'd consider that a price worth paying, even if you can't.



Too many ifs and buts, yet you come up with load of ifs and buts. He's recruited players who contracts extend beyond 2012 anyway so why recruitment is now a problem only you know?

Yes it's disappointing but there's far too many prepared to throw the baby out with the bath water at the moment. Lenegan will take his time consider his options and will probably put in place a plan to continue the work that Madge has started and will continue until the end of 2011 at the earliest.

Wether Maguire stays or as excpected goes back to Oz we need to remember that all the recent success is not just down to him. He inhereted a decent squad with a good set of young players coming through. We just did not become a good side when Maguire arrived. He got the best out of the players that were there. Wether the uncertainty or other issues have caused recent results fact is this season we have struggled and look like most SL teams as average at present and we have just had our most embarrasing result at home since Easter Monday against Quins a few season ago. 1 great season does not make a great coach. Bennett, Bellamy etc have more than 1 season of success.

IL needs to make a statement sooner rather than later and Maguire needs to be honest about his plans. All this no comment means that the rumor is a fact. Gleeson was no comment but most knew some of the facts.

Correct... So how come nobby couldn't do that in 4 years?

Answer : madge is head and shoulders above any of the last 5 coaches we've had.

That is not what I said was it. I said as he was not a first grade coach with a first grade coaches reputation so ought not to be in a position to dictate terms.



He has brought three players over who I am pretty sure came because he was the coach being ex-Melbourne and I would think other players knowing who the coach will be for the next couple of years will influence contract decisions on their part. Any player who viewed Wigan as a place to go to or stay at because of the excellent coaching might just be a tad disappointed. There are already people putting down the recent lack of form due to this issue. I have no idea if there is anything in that but its certainly not a minor issue if the coach decides to leave early. If the players really rate the coach as we are led to believe they do they are not going to be chuffed he's off.



IL seemingly hasn't got much choice but I doubt he is as sanguine about it as you are.

Noble was in a position where the team was his by the end of his time here and he had taken it as far as he could. Four and a half years was plenty of time for him. If he goes I may think Maquire is a dishonorable swine for leaving early but he took Nobles side further than Noble was capable of. It was obvious. I don't think we need to rehash that debate just because Maquire seemingly wants away.

I agree with you. If Noble was here last season it would be debatable if we would have go to the final and i dont think we would have finished top. Point i was trying to make is that we had a decent sqaud, but its apparently better now but results have worsened.

So he dictated terms did he? You don't think there would have been have a negotiation where there was a bit of give and take, like all others contracts? Maybe we should have just given him a take it or leave it approach, where he left it and we ended up with Noble on another extension.



I doubt players are signing 3, 4 and 5 years contracts based on Madge being coach for two years, are suddenly going to regret it because it looks like that two years is actually going to be one year.

People using what's happening as an excuse for our poor recent form, obviously didn't watch Wigan home games in the 2nd part of last season. I even started a thread about it last weekend pointing out how poor we've been at home for a considerable time stretching back to last season, yet are unbeaten in SL for over a year.

Browns an odd one, he wanted to leave last year, and came very closehttps://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/huddersfield-coach-nathan-brown-likely-to-return-to-nrl-in-2011/story-fn2mcuj6-1225919715687rl

and he has publicly stated that he wanted to go back and coach in the NRL.
rlhttps://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/ill-return-to-the-nrl-nathan-brown/story-e6frexnr-1225787855432rl

But last year he said his wife and kids asked him to stay (which is rare by Australian Family standards).
He reiterated that statement again in last Fridays Post match interview adding that he had his wife and kids to thanks for forcing him to stay on.

be interesting to see if St george offer him the job who wins the battle Brown or his wife
rlhttps://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/wayne-bennett-to-make-decision-on-his-future-which-could-pave-the-way-for-nathan-brown-to-return-to-the-nrl/story-fn2mcuj6-1226035797671rl

cant see him moving to Wigan to be honest

Hopefully the club announce something today, and clear up the circumstances around it, NRL release clause, only a 2 year deal etc. That way we can just focus on the rest of the season.

I have concerns about that in terms of how much focus will Madge have on Souths, players like Richards/Hoffman being courted by him and so forth, but hopefully those worries wont come to pass.

I dont really understand why Noble is being used so much as a stick to beat Madge/not beat Madge with, that debate has been done to death, Noble did a helluva lot of good work at all levels of the club, but Madge took us to the next level and won us silverwear.

I just find it hard to swallow given everything he put it place was about the team and we and at the first sign of $$$ he is off and running, despite his talk of legacy and dynasty and "being happy right here as long as we are moving forward". Souths are a big club, but in another 12 months, with another SL title in the bag, every club in the NRL would probably appoint him.

DEFO!!!!

The sooner it's official the better - gets rid of any 'sour taste' as you will and allows everyone to move on and concentrate on the season - starting Friday at KR.

I really hope we pull together with only Fielden and O'Carrol not present we should wipe the floor with any opposition (famous last words )

so what if he goes he goes, id rather him go now, dont want anyone hanging around if they are not going to be interested in the club,
if he sings elsewhere get rid

At least he'll be leaving on a high note.

haha, yeah apologies for that was trying to stop a rant coming out and lost my typing ability (not that i really ever had it!)