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Quote: Pemps "Tomkins has never been up for a drugs charge though has he?'"


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Quote: Fishsta "Cunningham has fractured a man's eye socket with a punch to the face WITHOUT PUNISHMENT.'"

That's because, amazing though it may seem to you, he didn't actually fracture anyone's eye socket.

The RFL chose to believe that cunningham didn't actually intend to hit the eye at all. I choose to believe that too because there is no evidence in Cunningham's playing history that he is a dirty player. To aim for the eye socket would be dirty; to hit the eye socket unintentionally is reckless (as decided by the RFL, hence the formal warning) but not dirty.

Or perhaps you don't understand English and you are weird enough not to realise how daft you sound repeating something that is entirely factually incorrect.

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Quote: SaintsFan "That's because, amazing though it may seem to you, he didn't actually fracture anyone's eye socket.

The RFL chose to believe that cunningham didn't actually intend to hit the eye at all. I choose to believe that too because there is no evidence in Cunningham's playing history that he is a dirty player. To aim for the eye socket would be dirty; to hit the eye socket unintentionally is reckless (as decided by the RFL, hence the formal warning) but not dirty.

Or perhaps you don't understand English and you are weird enough not to realise how daft you sound repeating something that is entirely factually incorrect.'"


How does one actually manage this? Did something supernatural happen to him to make him unintentionally 'jab' another player on the cheek?

If only Greg Bird had said this in court that he unintentionally struck his girlfriend on the face with a glass he'd probably be a free man now and playing at Bradford.

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Quote: SaintsFan "That's because, amazing though it may seem to you, he didn't actually fracture anyone's eye socket.

The RFL chose to believe that cunningham didn't actually intend to hit the eye at all. I choose to believe that too because there is no evidence in Cunningham's playing history that he is a dirty player. To aim for the eye socket would be dirty; to hit the eye socket unintentionally is reckless (as decided by the RFL, hence the formal warning) but not dirty.

Or perhaps you don't understand English and you are weird enough not to realise how daft you sound repeating something that is entirely factually incorrect.'"


how can punching not be dirty play?

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Quote: SaintsFan "That's because, amazing though it may seem to you, he didn't actually fracture anyone's eye socket.'"


Oh for the love of God.

Do I really need to do this again?

Friday 24th July
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's Super League derby against Castleford despite having a fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week[/i


Saturday July 25th
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday’s derby against Castleford with a fractured eye socket, suffered in a clash with St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats’ shock win.[/i


Friday 24 July
An indication of how much the game matters to all concerned can be judged by the fact that one player is defying a fractured eye socket in order to appear.

Wakefield prop James Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' stunning defeat of the leaders but coach John Kear insists the 27-year-old will be fit to face the Tigers at Belle Vue.

Kear said


Saturday 25th July
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's engage Super League derby against Castleford despite a fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week. [/i


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[iTony Martin (shoulder) is certainly sidelined but James Stosic should feature despite suffering a fractured eye socket in an incident with Saints hooker Keiron Cunningham.[/i



[iWakefield Wildcats prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's engage Super League derby against Castleford Tigers despite fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week.[/i


You know what, you're right. He didn't have a fractured eye socket at all. Everybody just made it up. I got all these media folk AND the RFL involved. They only wanted a few copies of Top Gear I recorded off Dave on Freeview, and they said they'd join in and mislead everyone. Even Stosic himself.

You plonker, Rodney!

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Its irrelevant if he broke it or not. Fatty has a lot of weight and when he throws it about its gonna do damage.

He deliberatly punched someone who had no chance of getting out of the way and he gets away with it because it wasnt classed as dirty play.

Its comical icon_lol.gif

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What is deemed as 'undue pressure' on the knee joint? Are they basically saying you can't tackle someone around the knee?

Regards the Cunningham incident, he was found guilty of throwing a punch but didn't mean to hit him in the eye. That's fine. Break someones jaw but state you meant to hit them in the nose.

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Don't forget Sam was also guilty of telling Ganson the Saint's score.

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Quote: Fishsta "Oh for the love of God.

Do I really need to do this again?

Friday 24th July
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's Super League derby against Castleford despite having a fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week[/i


Saturday July 25th
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday’s derby against Castleford with a fractured eye socket, suffered in a clash with St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats’ shock win.[/i


Friday 24 July
An indication of how much the game matters to all concerned can be judged by the fact that one player is defying a fractured eye socket in order to appear.

Wakefield prop James Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' stunning defeat of the leaders but coach John Kear insists the 27-year-old will be fit to face the Tigers at Belle Vue.

Kear said


Saturday 25th July
Wakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's engage Super League derby against Castleford despite a fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week. [/i


[i26th July[/i
[iTony Martin (shoulder) is certainly sidelined but James Stosic should feature despite suffering a fractured eye socket in an incident with Saints hooker Keiron Cunningham.[/i



[iWakefield Wildcats prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday's engage Super League derby against Castleford Tigers despite fractured eye socket.

Stosic suffered the injury after being struck by St Helens hooker Keiron Cunningham in the Wildcats' shock defeat of the competition leaders last week.[/i


You know what, you're right. He didn't have a fractured eye socket at all. Everybody just made it up. I got all these media folk AND the RFL involved. They only wanted a few copies of Top Gear I recorded off Dave on Freeview, and they said they'd join in and mislead everyone. Even Stosic himself.

You plonker, Rodney!'"


Which is all very nice, but try reading the press release from the club he plays for after they received the results of his scan, you moron.

rlhttp://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/injury-update-i605926.htmlrl

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No, YOU try reading it. I'll highlight the part you need to understand.

[iInjury Update
Wakefield prop James Stosic has not broken his eye socket as was first feared following Friday’s win at St. Helens.[/i

Whilst the medical world doesn't necessarily differentiate, the "generally accepted" terms used do. A break is understood to be a more severe fracture, usually at the point where a fracture is considered to be compounded and bones actually separate.

Also note the dates. All the articles above I quoted were issued around the 24th/25th. The Wakefield article you quote was issued on the 20th. Between those dates, Stosic attended a specialist, and as John Kear relays to the media, "[iThese things happen. The specialist has said he won't damage it any further so he'll get his shirt and his boots on and get out there. They play with worse than that![/i"

Wakefield issued that statement to the relief of their fans, and, to be fair to them, for the RFL's benefit in deciding to let Cunningham get away with another cowardly act of thuggish violence.

If it HAD been BROKEN, that would probably have been the end of Stosic's season.

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Quote: Conroy "What is deemed as 'undue pressure' on the knee joint? Are they basically saying you can't tackle someone around the knee?

Regards the Cunningham incident, he was found guilty of throwing a punch but didn't mean to hit him in the eye. That's fine. Break someones jaw but state you meant to hit them in the nose.'"


If the saints fan had their way, there'd be no tackling around the knees and no kicking the ball out of play, if the opposition is in contention for it. Of course until the saints players do it, then it's all fine and dandy.

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Quote: Fishsta "No, YOU try reading it. I'll highlight the part you need to understand.

[iInjury Update
Wakefield prop James Stosic has not broken his eye socket as was first feared following Friday’s win at St. Helens.[/i

Whilst the medical world doesn't necessarily differentiate, the "generally accepted" terms used do. A break is understood to be a more severe fracture, usually at the point where a fracture is considered to be compounded and bones actually separate.

Also note the dates. All the articles above I quoted were issued around the 24th/25th. The Wakefield article you quote was issued on the 20th. Between those dates, Stosic attended a specialist, and as John Kear relays to the media, "[iThese things happen. The specialist has said he won't damage it any further so he'll get his shirt and his boots on and get out there. They play with worse than that![/i"

Wakefield issued that statement to the relief of their fans, and, to be fair to them, for the RFL's benefit in deciding to let Cunningham get away with another cowardly act of thuggish violence.

If it HAD been BROKEN, that would probably have been the end of Stosic's season.'"


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Quote: pedro17 "Its irrelevant if he broke it or not. Fatty has a lot of weight and when he throws it about its gonna do damage.

He deliberatly punched someone who had no chance of getting out of the way and he gets away with it because it wasnt classed as dirty play.

Its comical
This is true, he should've done it and it was a cheap shot

Its just amusing when people keep saying it was fractured when no official wakefield statement says it was. Fishta even pm'd me last night several times but still can't show me where wake have said it was fractured icon_biggrin.gif

but as you say the level of injury is not important, the intent is, which i was very disappointed with from KC.

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I heard he broke it then it was dismissed by the club later on in the week to my knowledge.

Like you said its the intent not the damage but its gone now.

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ive seen cunningham offload a number of times over the years in similar positions and the ref hadnt called held,so the tackle by sam was ok unlike what cunningham got found not guilty of v wakefield a few weeks ago

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