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| Quote tank123="tank123"Saints fans are afraid as they do not feel their club can afford to do it.'"
You know what I would propose, and it has nothing to do with whether saints can afford it.
The golden ticket idea simply wouldn't work. There are far too many what if situations, and after years of over complicated rules leading to "breaking the spirit of ... " we should be looking for a simple, easy rule, if a marquee rule has to be brought in. 1 per club. The classic scenario for golden ticket: Salford buy a golden ticket for 200k (is that per year?) they sign a marquee on a 2 year contract and in the first year the team that sold the golden ticket gets relegate - do Salford have to forfeit the golden ticket they bought? Or Is it tough luck to the team whose come up? If they give it up they have only a couple of months to release players to fit the marquee under the cap. If it's though luck to the promoted team how are they expected to compete?
As to the suggestion we have 6-7 teams who could capably compete for these tickets - realistically any "open market" would see only Salford bidding on all the tickets.
Not supporting a marquee signing rule doesn't make McManus "running a small club" - that's nothing more than "you don't agree with my opinion so I'm going to insult you until you agree with me" |
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| Quote tank123="tank123"Saints fans are afraid as they do not feel their club can afford to do it.'"
Saints ain't a poor team and I certainly don't think they are.
In fact we are debt free. |
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| Quote tank123="tank123"So why did IL vote for it then. He can not keep Tomkins simply as if he pays him £750k per season he would have to let go Charnley, Mcilorum, Taylor and a few more and that would kill us off. IL knows he can not keep them and they will go to others leagues or sports form more money. Hence the 5 year deals and get a fee 3 years in. Its obvious you have no understanding of how the cap is draining players from the game to NRL or union. Leeds and Wigan voted for it. Or did you miss that and you just think this is Salford's all doing. Its Saints who cannot afford it its that obvious. The salary cap exemption was voted on a few weeks ago. Tomkins deal to NZW was done almost a year ago whilst not officially announced most knew about it. Interesting to see what happens in 3 years time though. But what is more apparent that Saints can not afford to offer Graham a deal and he is now on the exempt list.
Do you think that owners of Salford, Wigan, Leeds and Warrington are poor. Owners in football, union etc will dip into their own pockets as they can afford it.
Just remember the 2 brilliantly profitable clubs want it its poor clubs like Saints who do not.'"
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Saints ain't a poor team and I certainly don't think they are.
In fact we are debt free.'"
According to Saints last published accounts, their long term liabilities are £13,321,247 |
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"According to Saints last published accounts, their long term liabilities are £13,321,247'"
Not sure where you're looking?
companycheck.co.uk/company/00331905
Liabilities 2mil net worth 14mil
Also, with a closer look none of the liabilities are director loans (as was said)
Wigan as a comparison
companycheck.co.uk/company/00174 ... UB-LIMITED
Liabilities 5mil
Different accounting techniques by the looks of it, but no 13mill liabilities |
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"According to Saints last published accounts, their long term liabilities are £13,321,247'"
Not sure where you're looking?
companycheck.co.uk/company/00331905
Liabilities 2mil net worth 14mil
Also, with a closer look none of the liabilities are director loans (as was said)
Wigan as a comparison
companycheck.co.uk/company/00174 ... UB-LIMITED
Liabilities 5mil
Different accounting techniques by the looks of it, but no 13mill liabilities | |
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Spending hundreds of thousands on one player will bring in extra money?
I'm interested to hear this? (Please don't say extra fans)
I'd have thought, keep your own players first before going breaking the bank on one player. Why not use the "marquee" money on keeping the likes of tomkin brothers and mossop?'"
Why not say 'extra fans'? That's exactly what DOES happen. Look at Salford now, Wire when they signed Johns etc. It's common sense that people will pay to see great players. In most cases that's why we get interested in the game I the first place! |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"If you doesn't like the 'smaller club' tag, your chairman needs to stop behaving as if he runs one.'"
Basically saints have a net worth of £14 million from building our new stadium. While wigans net worth is actually -£2.5 million so basically Wigans net worth is actually in negative.
Debts - saints debts are at a steady £3 million whirls Wigans is now £5 million.
Money in the bank - saints have currently £475k in the bank compared to Wigan who have £11k in the bank.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Basically saints have a net worth of £14 million from building our new stadium. While wigans net worth is actually -£2.5 million so basically Wigans net worth is actually in negative.
Debts - saints debts are at a steady £3 million whirls Wigans is now £5 million.
Money in the bank - saints have currently £475k in the bank compared to Wigan who have £11k in the bank.
If we are a small club, what does that make you ?
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You could bank some more money by selling your trophy cabinet, and your "Envy-o-meter". |
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"You could bank some more money by selling your trophy cabinet, and your "Envy-o-meter".'"
Haha I was waiting for that.
The small club didn't work so now it's compare trophies.
I'll see you in October mate. Just keep them warm. |
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"You could bank some more money by selling your trophy cabinet, and your "Envy-o-meter".'"
Can we get back to the topic in this thread.
Why would clubs vote for the marquee when in, let's say £5 million debt? |
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