You said you thought there was similar room for improvement in both teams. I didn't see you playing with 12 men unless I missed it. By that reasoning Salford can improve as much as you the next time you meet. Do you think that's the case?

Is this forum completely unmoderated these days? How is this post still here?

Go and take your sensitivity somewhere else.

I'm sorry that I'm not a ref sh@gger like loads on here. Kendall is a see you next Tuesday of the highest order. In fact I'd go as far as to say he's a criminal.

I was thinking this myself, i normally agree and like a lot of SP's posts but they have been pushing the line with regards to referee's recently and went completely off the rails last night in a few posts that should be removed imo.

Maybe a good suggestion to SP would be to take a few dayd break from the forum and come back with a more level head?

I'm clear of the beer and I'm 100% doubling down on my posts from yesterday.

I honestly can't see how people don't see how biased he was yesterday. If he's going to send Wigan players off en masse and not do anything for players in a RedVee, then he deserves everything he gets & more.

He ruined what should have been a good day. Sell out, almost two fully strength sides, pubs in town full of fans etc. Instead he decided it was all about him.

I think Havard, Cooper and especially Walters will play a massive role in our chances of success. One thing I thought yesterday did for me was to give clarity on our best side (which is basically just deciding the make up of the pack). Mago deserves all the praise in the world for his efforts in getting fitter and his form and there are plenty of games there for him but if we had a full squad tomorrow and a big game to play, I think Walters comes in for Isa, Havard for Mago and even though I probably wouldn’t go with 3 props on the bench, I think we’d see Cooper for Nsemba.

Well no it seems like you didn’t really follow the conversation. We were talking about scope for improvement for the teams at large, to do that you’d be talking about how the game was going at 13 v 13 which is what I was doing and I assume Nicky was as well. If you want to talk about room for improvement as the game was at 13 v 12 then yeah… of course there’s more room for improvement from you. You were also much further behind us when you were down to 12 lol. It doesn’t make sense to approach it from that perspective

I love Willie Isa (don’t ever miss the surname of that sentence), he’s been brilliant for us and has brought great value but I do agree on him sadly. His age is showing and there isn’t enough threat or ability to make ground on that right side currently without KPP or his replacement in Walters. I’ve been hugely impressed with Adam Keighran but in a grind like yesterday I also thought we missed Toby Kings ability to make ground. Keighran is a different sort of centre and that’s fine but you can’t then lose meter makers in other areas.

You mean we were winning when it was 13 v 13 despite having been down to 12 men for 10 minutes at that point? Or do you mean we were clearly getting on top prior to the Byrne sending off? Perhaps you mean you couldn't score when we were first down to 12 and only managed to score a try in the dying minutes despite both those advantages?

Again, I'll ask you the same question: Do you think Salford will have the same room for improvement as yourselves when you next meet?

Yeah, bit bizarre to not bring him on when you were down to 12, when an injection of energy was clearly needed. As you say, he’s also a beast of a man so could cause some problems and make some much needed metres. Cant really get my head around what Peet was thinking there

And you are fully entitled to your opinions to the current stanfard of refereeing and rules, but i feel you could articulate it much better than the personal insults you are currently throwing around.

For the record, i think Kendall was pretty fair yesterday, both teams got away with a couple of things but it balanced out. In fact, he could have been much harsher with us in 6 agains and penalties if he had wanted to, our discipline is a big issue currently.

I also don't like the direction that the rules are heading in, Dupree's should have been a penalty only & Byrne's a yellow, but under the current rulesets the ref's hands are tied so i feel the cards he gave out were justified. Things will only get worse next season, i forsee disaster with the armpit rule.

That's not strictly true. He could still be more even handed (under the current rules the accidental head clash is a card etc.) and, it's been said that the video ref thought there was mitigation in the Byrne sending off and it should have been a yellow. Those types of decisions are on the ref. They're hands aren't tied. It's down to interpretation.

NK was saying we had more improvement in us based on the game yesterday. Not on selected bits of it. On the whole game! You can't pick out the bits where we were 13 v 13 and argue it as if the periods of being down to 12 has no effect. And despite all your statistics we were winning that game until we got a man sent off.

Please answer the question asked. Do you think Salford have as much improvement in them as yourselves the next time you meet? If you keep avoiding the question then there really is no point in these exchanges.

That's fair, under the current rules i agree the head clash is a sending off. First i have heard about the video ref thing, not sure i agree with him.