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| Quote: ChrisA "Confirmation of what we all know, we have narrowed the gap somewhat, and not closed it, not close yet.
Shorrocks, still to this day I do not know what he brings to the team other than effort. He has no clear talent that I can see, he isn't big, fast, strong or a good ball player.
Bibby, shooting out of the line is just plain dumb. Quite relaxed about him going, very average at either wing or centre.
Cust was slow to react to most things, said last week that this wasn't the game to bring him back.
Hopefully the disappointment will help some guys to learn a lesson, letting Hurrell offload with 4 men on him was criminal.'"
Plenty of fat/Deadwood to be trimmed from the side still - Shorrocks, Partington and Singo spring to mind. Luckily the club have already identified that they need an experienced prop (something Singo should be) to lead the troops. It was night and day when we brought Havard and Mago (excellent tonight) on.
Isa was ok, but we struggled to get momentum early on (see the above about props). Baffling that KPP didn't play - unless he's injured?
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| Quote: WWste "Was definitely a red mate. No intention in the tackle but was very dangerous'"
Was it balls. No initial reaction in the ground and the ref was happy to play on until the Saints guy milked it. If he doesn't stay down, then nothing happens.
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| KPP is ill
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| Quote: DannyT "What exactly is the letter of the law? I can’t access the rules on the RFL site as it’s down
Contact with the shoulder to the head
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "KPP is ill'"
Fair play. Not been near a TV all day.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Baffling that KPP didn't play - unless he's injured?'"
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Was it balls. No initial reaction in the ground and the ref was happy to play on until the Saints guy milked it. If he doesn't stay down, then nothing happens.'"
The delay was probably because it was being reviewed. They are now carding people even if there is no injury and rightfully so
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| Quote: WWste "The delay was probably because it was being reviewed. They are now carding people even if there is no injury and rightfully so'"
100% rightfully so Loads of money and time down the can, all cause a guys milked a pen.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "100% rightfully so
If he milks a pen and theres nothing in it, play carries on.
His shoulder hits his head. Red card.
The rule is terrible because it no longer accounts for whether it's deliberate, the position of the attacker, timing etc. Singleton is committed to what would probably be a legal tackle and the quick positional change of Sironen means he hits him in the head with his shoulder.
We're still winning the game with less than 3 minutes to go though and threw it away. That wasn't Liam Moore's fault.
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| We could quite easily have won that given a touch more luck and smartness. The derbies are now unpredictable because we have closed the gap considerably and have more improvement in us. They can have that one, we'll have the Grand Final
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| This is the gap in quality.
Saints are missing..
The best prop in SL
The best scrum half in SL
The best centre in SL
The best winger in SL
And still beat second place. That’s embarassing.
That said, I thought Byrne was easily your best forward with Farrell second. The rest were anonymous, especially Bateman. Why oh why did you break the bank for someone who is utterly terrible and offers nothing
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "This is the gap in quality.
Saints are missing..
The best prop in SL
The best scrum half in SL
The best centre in SL
The best winger in SL
And still beat second place. That’s embarassing.
That said, I thought Byrne was easily your best forward with Farrell second. The rest were anonymous, especially Bateman. Why oh why did you break the bank for someone who is utterly terrible and offers nothing'"
The biggest annoyance at losing, is that you don't disappear for a week.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "If he milks a pen and theres nothing in it, play carries on.
His shoulder hits his head. Red card.
The rule is terrible because it no longer accounts for whether it's deliberate, the position of the attacker, timing etc. Singleton is committed to what would probably be a legal tackle and the quick positional change of Sironen means he hits him in the head with his shoulder.
We're still winning the game with less than 3 minutes to go though and threw it away. That wasn't Liam Moore's fault.'"
You agree the rule is BS. Moore had a choice, be a jobs worth or actually play what the majority see i.e nothing in it.
What happened to, instead of forcing a black and white decision , looking at the the context or actual play (like you have)?
If Sironen doesn't stay down then it's play on. He actually fakes being injured, because he knows what might happen. That's not something I want to see in RL, as it's another small step towards diving. For reasonableness, Faz did something similar in the 1st 20. I'd happily see a pen reversed for players that jump up and play on after it. No place for simulation, or fake injuries.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "The biggest annoyance at losing, is that you don't disappear for a week.'"
Bet his was twitching at the end. Or maybe that was his dad coming for seconds
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "You agree the rule is BS. Moore had a choice, be a jobs worth or actually play what the majority see i.e nothing in it.
What happened to, instead of forcing a black and white decision , looking at the the context or actual play (like you have)?
If Sironen doesn't stay down then it's play on. He actually fakes being injured, because he knows what might happen. That's not something I want to see in RL, as it's another small step towards diving. For reasonableness, Faz did something similar in the 1st 20. I'd happily see a pen reversed for players that jump up and play on after it. No place for simulation, or fake injuries.'"
As I said earlier I thought it was a yellow. But Iv always thought its a problem that players will inevitably feel encouraged to stay down on the floor. He plays the ball - the referees can't go back to it. So why wouldn't you stay down if you know that's going to result in the video ref looking at it from 4 different angles to find something wrong?
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