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| If you could just keep him for another week, that would be great,
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| Quote: jonh "The lack of action from IFL on this if Lam is still there by our next game highlights a total lack of strength from our senior management.
He must go.'"
The slight problem with this is that it’s clearly not all down to Lam.
We simply don’t have the tools to do the job.
Our recruitment has been suicidal at best and to see this team go from side to side due to absolutely no go forward is sad to see.
I was one of the few who stated that Lam wasn’t ready for the Wigan job but it’s clear he has been completely undone by shocking recruitment.
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| If you average our for and against over 21 games, we lose each game 17-16
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| So who is selecting the team? Is it Lam alone or does he ask for input then ignore it? What on earth is going on?
Again he selected the young props whilst our three other senior props were sat in the stand. Week in and week out Lam is flogging these young forwards when their careers are not at the stage to be starting props every week. Especially with the workload of playing more games than any other club due to Covid.
Cas on Monday is a nightmare waiting to happen and at this rate Wire will have a field day. What does worry me though is if Lam puts those young forwards out v Catalans who have probably the biggest pack in the league. Lam simply must be prevented from doing that. Whether we like them or not Bullock, Clubb, Clark & Singleton all have to play against that huge Catalans pack. Lam also has to change tactics.
The idea that we can kick long and chase hard after playing more games than anyone is ludicrous. He has to slow the game down and slow the opposition down. Not in the tackle or wrestle as we'd concede too many pens and restarts. Simple enough and he must do it.
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| Quote: Father Ted "So who is selecting the team? Is it Lam alone or does he ask for input then ignore it? What on earth is going on?
Again he selected the young props whilst our three other senior props were sat in the stand. Week in and week out Lam is flogging these young forwards when their careers are not at the stage to be starting props every week. Especially with the workload of playing more games than any other club due to Covid.
Cas on Monday is a nightmare waiting to happen and at this rate Wire will have a field day. What does worry me though is if Lam puts those young forwards out v Catalans who have probably the biggest pack in the league. Lam simply must be prevented from doing that. Whether we like them or not Bullock, Clubb, Clark & Singleton all have to play against that huge Catalans pack. Lam also has to change tactics.
The idea that we can kick long and chase hard after playing more games than anyone is ludicrous. He has to slow the game down and slow the opposition down. Not in the tackle or wrestle as we'd concede too many pens and restarts. Simple enough and he must do it.'"
Lam & MP.
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| We don't have a wonderful squad, and it certainly has weaknesses, but it is certainly good enough to be competitive at the top of SL. There aren't many SL sides who wouldn't want an in-form Hastings, Gildart, Farrell, Marshall etc.It's impossible to think another coach could not have got more out of these players, considering how far we've gone backwards.
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| Quote: moto748 "We don't have a wonderful squad, and it certainly has weaknesses, but it is certainly good enough to be competitive at the top of SL. There aren't many SL sides who wouldn't want an in-form Hastings, Gildart, Farrell, Marshall etc.It's impossible to think another coach could not have got more out of these players, considering how far we've gone backwards.'"
All good players but useless without decent props.
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| Quote: dany1979 "All good players but useless without decent props.'"
We’re short at prop, make no bones about it but we’re not this short. We got mullered in the middle against Saints but not tonight. In that first half we made ground and still don’t do anything with it.
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| Yeah, but I just don't fully buy this catch-all argument that lack of props is the top and bottom of the problem. There have been plenty of times in recent games, including tonight, where we have in fact had a fair amount of field position, but our attack still looks blunt when we reach our opponents' 20. And that's surely down to basic coaching.
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| Quote: dany1979 "The slight problem with this is that it’s clearly not all down to Lam.
We simply don’t have the tools to do the job.
Our recruitment has been suicidal at best and to see this team go from side to side due to absolutely no go forward is sad to see.
I was one of the few who stated that Lam wasn’t ready for the Wigan job but it’s clear he has been completely undone by shocking recruitment.'"
Don’t disagree hence the reason Rads should go too.
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| Rads/Lenagan may have left Lam short of top quality at prop but they can’t be forcing him to not picking Bullock or Clark (two lads who will at least go forward), picking a back row forward at hooker, forwards in the centres, a mountain of young middles all at the same time, making him not show trust in young backs, young hookers etc. Our attack is possibly the worst I’ve seen of any team in the history of superleague and Lam should feel pretty embarrassed about that.
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| There are too many average players in the squad who are not even in decent form. Field is still too ‘untested’ to comment but senior players like Bibby, Singleton, Powell, Clarke, Bullock, Clubb are just not good enough even if they hit some form. Then the younger players are not ready to play every week but have potential. Players like Havard, Byrne, Smithies, Partington and KPP should have been drip fed into the team, not relied upon to carry us. Smith simply cannot be given the responsibility of being our 1st choice half next season, he needs a seasoned pro alongside him which I fear won’t come. Bateman has been a shadow of the player he can be and Hastings is left to try to do it all by himself. It’s so easy for a defence to plan. Put numbers on Hastings because nobody else has a clue how to unlock them!
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Rads/Lenagan may have left Lam short of top quality at prop but they can’t be forcing him to not picking Bullock or Clark (two lads who will at least go forward), picking a back row forward at hooker, forwards in the centres, a mountain of young middles all at the same time, making him not show trust in young backs, young hookers etc. Our attack is possibly the worst I’ve seen of any team in the history of superleague and Lam should feel pretty embarrassed about that.'"
The selection would suggest that both Bullock and Clarke (both signed by Rads) are not impressing at training.
It’s almost as if they have known for a while that they are not wanted…
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I know you will think this is a Saints fan gloating but bear with me . . . . .
I watched a Wigan team tonight that wasn’t wearing cherry and white hoops, didn’t wear the Wigan crest and showed absolutely nothing.
Lam needs to go. I fear it won’t be enough and that the malaise runs deeper but he needs to go.
We need a strong Wigan. We need Wigan, Leeds, Wire, Saints, Catalan all firing and we’d have a great league. This league is poor and Wigan being poor is just so damaging.
Good luck.'"
Same here mate, watched it in a pub at an East coast holiday resort with a real good mixture of mainly Yorkshire clubs fans. Never thought I'd see the day when Yorkshire fans (apart from Rhino's) would be showing so much sympathy for a Wigan team. Exactly the same things were being said about no cherry and white and no atmosphere at the DW and more importantly Super League needs a strong Wigan. Too many players don't look interested and it doesn't make for good TV.
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