Is that Lams job?

I don’t think it is. It certainly isn’t at most clubs.

In relation to scouting I’ve not seen a Wigan scout in Yorkshire for a long time. Not regularly anyway.

I left with ten minutes to go. I can't recall doing that before. But we never looked like scoring a try in the whole match. I said upthread, I wonder how long he would keep Shorrocks at dummy-half; I thought, perhaps for the first twenty, till they tire a little, and then bring Borouh on? But no, Shorrocks for all the first half, and then Borouh on, and then Shorrocks back again, wtf? Was Borouh injured? Shorrocks tackled tirelessly, as he always does, but he doesn't offer a threat from dummy-half, As others have said, Saints didn't really need to get out of second gear.

I bet Wane knew every single thing about every player being recruited at Wigan in his time.
I bet Bellamy, trent Robinson etc know whats going on and oversee at their clubs

Lam (sorry) in his words could "Take coaching or leave it" or words to that effect.

4/5 games in I knew he wasn't the man for me, full of excuses, full of blame for everyone else.

You can talk about scouts, etc etc, a top coach would know EVERYTHING that was going on and would be in charge of strategy, culture etc at the club

To start on the only positive I can take from that game is I can’t fault the players for effort.

I’m really disappointed with Isa. I’m all for aggression and getting stuck in but he lost his cool tonight. 2/3 matches for the shot on the floor on Welsby is deserved and he should have seen red.

Bentley really rattled us tonight, he reminds me of Bateman 5 or 6 years ago, he winds the opposition up and plays slightly over the line but not far enough to get in any real trouble. We fell for it hook line and sinker. One thing that irks me is how a player who stands up to a player who kicked him in the head gets the same punishment.

We can criticise the attack, halves or backs all we want but we go back to the same old problem of not having a platform to play off, with our current pack that won’t change. Hopefully the two coming in can make a difference.

This season is a write off, we need to look to build for next year now starting with the coach.

Abject surrender, going for two was the equivalent of running the white flag up, wouldn't mind if Saints were any good but they've fallen so far from what Holbrook had them playing and to beat us without breaking sweat is mortifying.
I might be wrong but I can't remember them making a single tackle within 10m of their own line, I'd say it can't get any worse but I wouldn't\t bet against it.

Wait until we play Leeds
The crowd will be shocking too

lol

Come and fill me in then, PM me the time and place coward.

First time we’ve not scored a try at the DW Stadium (from Bilko on Twitter).

Unforgivable.

Lam out

Very sad to witness that tonight.

Paul Sculthorpe got it right after the match.

Wigan look like a bunch of mates who have decided to get together and have a go. Many of our young players have been asked to do far too much and are not yet ready for first team rugby.

It was damage limitation from the moment the game kicked off and all Wigan can do is go from side to side with zero penetration through the middle.

Listening to Lam after the game actually reminded me of Millward….a coach in complete denial.

Our so called "hardmen" are a joke. So so easy to play against. The Saints houses had us on toasf (with help from kendall)

Correct sir

I will bet you Wane didn’t.

That’s not a dig at Wane, it’s just not reasonable to expect the head coach to be involved in the talent id process.

‘Take aggressive action against’ is one definition and describes the incident very well. If I remember rightly dived on a player already on the ground and attacked with a swinging arm to the head. The ball had gone after the original tackle. ISA completely lost his head in thr match almost certainly due to frustration due to Wigan’s totally inept display.