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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I've never been his biggest fan from way back when he played for England academy but IMO McShane has been the stand out hooker so far this season.'"


And currently leading the man of steel table. I think Richardson has taken some creativity work off him this season as for the last 2 years we have been missing gale with no quality replacement.

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Quote: Levrier "Official attendance just over 6000 for a club at the top against one of their nearest challengers. Absolutely beggars belief.'"


If Huddersfield had the same successes as Wigan have had in the SL era it might be a different story. Just be thankful you have a team that has had more than it`t share of trophy`s.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Quite simply put - Hudds offer absolutely nothing of value to SL.

There's plenty of teams that I don't like, but Hudds are genuinely right at the top and epitomises everything that's wrong with modern RL in the UK.

If only Bradford had their benefactor.'"


What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize (did you notice I spelled it correctly) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.

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Quote: Giantscorpio "What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize (did you notice I spelled it correctly) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.'"


Yes three in the last six years, and they were mostly "loop fixtures"

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Quote: Giantscorpio "What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize (did you notice I spelled it correctly) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.'"


So why did your average go down in 2013 when you finished top?

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Quote: Giantscorpio "What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize ([sizedid you notice I spelled it correctly[/size) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.'"


Lost interest at this bit

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Quote: Giantscorpio "What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize (did you notice I spelled it correctly) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.'"


I have to agree to (most) of that. It's very disingenuous and a little uppity of fans of a successful club mocking the support of a lesser successful one. We should be coming up with ideas of how to get people back to the game. If Huddersfield played in a stadium like Belle Vue the crowds wouldn't look bad at all. We suffer the same problem. Big stadiums, lots of seats, fans smattered here there and everywhere. I did notice in Hudds on Sunday a lot of families walking around in the town centre. Shopping obviously. The club should be aiming at those people. There was ano entertaining game of rugby on around the corner

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "I have to agree to (most) of that. It's very disingenuous and a little uppity of fans of a successful club mocking the support of a lesser successful one. We should be coming up with ideas of how to get people back to the game. If Huddersfield played in a stadium like Belle Vue the crowds wouldn't look bad at all. We suffer the same problem. Big stadiums, lots of seats, fans smattered here there and everywhere. I did notice in Hudds on Sunday a lot of families walking around in the town centre. Shopping obviously. The club should be aiming at those people. There was ano entertaining game of rugby on around the corner'"


It is nobodys job but Huddersfields to bring in fans to Huddersfield games and they fail miserably year on year even when doing well. Do they flood the league with local talent? Do they bring in viewing figures on tv and thus sponsorship?

Thankfully, Ken Davy isn't one of the whiny owners and does do his best to push the sport forward. One of the few that does on the other side of the pennines.

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Quote: Giantscorpio "What a load of crap. First of all it is easy to follow a successful team, although I have noticed occasionally that Wigans crowd did drop below 10000 for some games and they are not pulling the crowds that they used to.
Why do Huddersfield epitomize (did you notice I spelled it correctly) everything that it wrong with RL ?? Some clubs have always to be in the basement or you would have a league of 5 or 6 clubs St.H, Wigan,Warr,Leeds,Cas and Hull which would not work.
And what about Bradford their crowds have gone down like a stone in water, going down a division and losing games, crowds do go down and take a lot of gaining back once they have gone, so get your brain in gear before you spout this claptrap because if Wigan were in Bradford`s situation they would have extremely poor crowds too and bring as you say nothing to SL.'"


wigans average was the highest when they were near the bottom of the table under Millward and when Noble took over, I must admit that was one of the most enjoyable seasons watching us fight to survive and the fans turning up to help them

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "Don't rate Hodgson one bit and Roby hasnt even played a super league game yet has he? I've said it for ages that Clark should be the go to man for the no.9 jersey. Roby is world class also I'm not saying he hasn't but he hasn't played. '"


He's played two more games than Gildart this season (who is also in the "squad"icon_wink.gif . . . .

Quote: Pie_Eyter "On the Smithies argument. I am one of those who thinks if you are old enough you are good enough. If being the record holder for most tackles on a game isn't international standard I don't know what is. Especially when we have a severe shortage of loose forwards. That could be his position for years and years to come. Especially with Knowles committing himself to Wales'"


Jon Wilkin has made the most tackles in SL but he won't be playing for England either.

Smithies will hopefully get there, as he grows out he'll add more impact with the ball and might then be an international player.

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Quote: FearTheVee "

As for Smithies - impressive energy and defence but haven't really seen anything else from him at all to suggest he's anywhere near an international squad.
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What would your thoughts be on Morgan Knowles getting in, if he jumped ship from Wales. Do you think he’s good enough?

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Quote: NickyKiss "What would your thoughts be on Morgan Knowles getting in, if he jumped ship from Wales. Do you think he’s good enough?'"


I think he's a very solid player but short of international class. At that level you need your back rowers to be able to defend AND be damaging / metre making with the ball IMO.

I don't know if this is true or not, but Smithies seems to have a bigger frame - I expect once he fills out he has every chance of being an international back row but I think he currently lacks a bit with the ball. I've seen him dominated pretty badly a couple of times against Saints last year which might be skewing my view (perhaps unfairly given the pack around him and the fact he's had another off season)

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Quote: FearTheVee "I think he's a very solid player but short of international class. At that level you need your back rowers to be able to defend AND be damaging / metre making with the ball IMO.

I don't know if this is true or not, but Smithies seems to have a bigger frame - I expect once he fills out he has every chance of being an international back row but I think he currently lacks a bit with the ball. I've seen him dominated pretty badly a couple of times against Saints last year which might be skewing my view (perhaps unfairly given the pack around him and the fact he's had another off season)'"


Fair enough, was just interested to get your views on a player who statistically stacks up against Smithies.

My view on Smithies is that he could do a job currently but the World Cup of 2021 is probably the realistic goal for him. He’s doing really well to more than hold his own at 19 years of age, playing in the middle of the field. If we have him a run in the second row, I think he’d find it easier and stand more of a chance of making a play for this years ashes. He’s a different style of Loose Forward to Lockers but like Lockers all those years back, I do think Smithies may take a while to earn every fans respect.

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Quote: NickyKiss " I do think Smithies may take a while to earn every fans respect.'"


He probably never will with some

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "I have to agree to (most) of that. It's very disingenuous and a little uppity of fans of a successful club mocking the support of a lesser successful one. We should be coming up with ideas of how to get people back to the game. If Huddersfield played in a stadium like Belle Vue the crowds wouldn't look bad at all. We suffer the same problem. Big stadiums, lots of seats, fans smattered here there and everywhere. I did notice in Hudds on Sunday a lot of families walking around in the town centre. Shopping obviously. The club should be aiming at those people. There was ano entertaining game of rugby on around the corner'"


Agree mate, but some on here preaching to the converted, agree that our marketing methods could be better in some areas, but we are up against Huddersfield Town and very few follow both clubs. They were in the Premier league for 2 seasons and Championship for a few years which hasn`t helped. Also the local rag the Examiner is football mad, pages of it and we are stuck on half a page. And to be fair to Ken Davy, ticket prices are the cheapest in the league. It used to be a good club in the distant past, but with bouncing along around the bottom of SL for a number of years and getting relegated, the fight back takes a lot of years.

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