so in this case we should appeal every single decision made by the RFL because the player and club have nothing to lose in doing so?



I am sorry but its a fair argument to say McIllorum got off lightly for him to appeal this decision is just nonsense.

3 games is very harsh i've seen worse and get no fine or sending off



Micky mac up untill the last 5 weeks has been awesome hit hard in the tackle and played rugby but now we are seeing the other side of his game which we all thought was gone and all this is down to is frustration i dont think some fans know how much the injuries have had on us this season not loads but to key players who play a massive role in what we do best



Pat- i made a post a after he first got injured about the worry on the wing and how many chances Gelling had bombed let me tell you if he was playing v Hull kr we would have lost no way he would have done the things Pat did



Tommy- when he first got injured i thought we would be fine how wrong i was it was a huge blow the quality and speed of the ball between the dummy halfs was dire at best locky cant play at 6, He and the club thought he was out for the season (see pemps sig



) why do you think we chucked cash at Salford for Smith he's shocked himself and everyone by getting back this season but still not 100% and i'm worried now Micky is banned if he's up to 80 mins



Lima/Prescott/Hansen- i know we have had injures in the pack on and off but these 3 all went around the same time when you take the class of these guys and replace them with young inexperienced lads your going to have problems and big ones when it comes down to Wanes 'plan b' which is run over the opposition and smash them everywhere and in this day and age doesn't work like at Hull kr you smash them up the middle what are they going to do? run it out wide

Wigan don't appeal every judgement, so your first point carries no weight.



If they decide that to leave the ban in place means they'll be unduly weakened during the play-offs, then I'm glad they're appealing.



Call people's views nonsense if you wish, but opinions are clearly divided as to whether the ban is harsh or fair, and yours is no more important than anyone else's.

No they have nothing to lose because he's already banned for the rest of the season and he shouldn't get another game as the tariff was 2-3 games.

Must say I expected 2 taking into account the time he got sent off. Mainly due to beng late and his previous rather than the intent, but hey ho thats the way it goes.

To be fair I think the sending off may have gone against him.

If it had been put on report I don't think the ban would be as harsh.



The sending off made it seem really bad. I mean in what world was that as bad as what rangi chase did? Or worse than what ablett did to Tomkins a couple years ago?

I have to agree the sending off was correct and the ban itself is ok although 2games may have been more fitting, however when you compare it to Chase's forearm smash then the whole system is just wrong ,Chase deserved at least 8 when compared to Mickey Macs..

Probably not, unless he has been sent off, then there's a chance.

Three matches for that ? I'm not a Wigan fan and even I find that a ludicrous ban. I hope he wins his appeal.

Please get with the programme. Sack cloth and ashes are all the rage dontcha know.

If we could link to YouTube I could show you several incidents worse than what MM did that did not result in the player being sent off or sanctioned in any way and I am talking about high and late tackles not just some random bit of foul play.



The club will be appealing because they think the ban is OTT and given the fact these videos I mention show worse high shots that went unpunished the club has a point.

you know you could give the descriptions for people to search for on yowchobe on here.

/watch?v=GV_2O2_PJKU

I don't blame the club for appealing. 3 games is too much given what has gone before.

Appeal lost.

Wigan witch hunt strikes again.



Everyone hates us, we dont care.



Lets smash all comers now and win the GF for Mickey Mac.

The guy is a bit of a loose cannon and his previous offences won't have helped his cause. It was only a few months since he last red card. Very disappointing for the fans I'm sure, but the blame lies with the player himself. Hopefully Wane can coach some controlled aggression into him as he matures.

However, if you remember back to the last time our sides met you may also remember that our player Magennis was sent off and subsequently banned for three matches and he did what McIlorum did: he blindsided his victim. So the RFL is being consistent in dishing out this penalty and I think they have the ban spot on.

Sorry but there is a huge difference between the two



Micky mac went in late and high, Magennis went for a cheap shot after the situation calmed down and started it all up again

The two incidents are not comparable at all, don't be silly.

Plus Magennis got put on his 'arris, which kind of reduced his credibility even more.

Except that is not how the disciplinary system works.



Both McIlorum and Magennis were charged with a Grade C offence. Tackling late and high is not a Grade C offence per se. It is the 'reckless' element of the charge which is the relevant part (all Grade C offences are 'reckless').



One player's late and high tackle may be deemed as accidental, or as already committed, and attract as little as a penalty. Punching can attract as little as a Grade A offence (Magennis punched).



The one similarity between the two events which I believe has been interpreted as 'reckless' - ie the element of the event that has attracted the Grade C charge - is that on each occasion the victim was not aware that the perpetrator was about to do what they did and so was unable to defend themselves or take evasive action. They were both blindsided, and it is that element to the event which has been considered 'reckless' and which has attracted the same charge for both players, even though both events looked totally different.

I don't really understand the rationale for appealing the ban...usually you'd give more evidence (or add something to the proceeding) rather than just because you feel the ban was 'harsh'. Prima facie, it looks like Wig*n have done just that as surely the initial proceedings had all the evidence they required, given that the match was televised.



Would like to see the written judgment and what reasoning you lot gave in favour of a reduction.

Sorry but half backs get shotted all the time late when they dont expect it and some are high and intended to hurt them nothing comes of it



The rfl and REFS are to inconsistent and it's not even close it's done my head in all season and tbh put me off the game over here somewhat i get my rugby fix on prem sports watching their refs do a very good job week in week out



It's not just decisions against my players or teams it's others we need 2 refs and video at every game only way to make it fair and bring the captain call in

Three things that really annoy me about this whole incident: The fact that Micky Mac got sent off after 15 minutes when his team were leading 6 -0 and thus missed 65 minutes of a game which Wigan ended up losing - ie his dismissal so early in the game should have been taken into consideration. Contrast that with players who get put on report ( as happens in the vast majority of these cases) and thus their teams are not at all disadvantaged in the game where the incident takes place. Or cases such as Magennis whose dismissal was in the 2nd half when his team were losing by 30 points and thus in no way affected the outcome of the game. That is why it was right to ban him for 3 games, but MM should have been banned for 2.



The other factor which is entirely Wigan's fault is that it was ridiculous to submit the early guilty plea after the Bradford game. Wigan's next game on 8th July was against Wakefield who at the time were struggling. MM should have never submitted the early plea, particularly as he was carrying an injury which forced him to miss the Wakefield game anyway. It would have been far better to have accepted the one game ban from the outset and take the opportunity to rest MM - which is what happened in any case.



And finally,as has already been mentioned, what role did Ganson have in influencing Child to brandish the red card?