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The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.: |
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What is this Fielden setback?
Have I missed something?
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "His dirty tactics will fit right in with the likes of Jeff, Sean, Joel and Chris.
Honestly though, he isn't the player he was in the NRL, and you cannot coach a good player to be bad, he has come over for the paycheck and put minimum effort in so far, and that is why he was no longer in McDermott's plans, you've just given him an extended paycheck, as have widnes. He'll continue to give away too many penalties and for that, i'm happy.'"
You sure you don't want a cushion for your ar$e?
Sitting on that fence must be a nightmare for it... |
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[color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg |
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says in the observer he could be back this week stu
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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t]
[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: Guerrier "You sure you don't want a cushion for your ar$e?
Sitting on that fence must be a nightmare for it...'"
you don't want some lube, sitting on cross' johnson must be wreaking havoc. 
i really dont think cross is all he was made up to be by leeds, and same now. i wouldn't be happy had we signed him, and im being honest, i have no reason not to be. (Wigan bias aside ) |
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I Just Can't Get Enough!!!
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Good signing as cover.
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Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery.......
I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself.
Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king"
'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure'
'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it'
Worry will not prevent destiny from unfolding.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3632.jpg |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "His dirty tactics will fit right in with the likes of Jeff, Sean, Joel and Chris.
Honestly though, he isn't the player he was in the NRL, and you cannot coach a good player to be bad, he has come over for the paycheck and put minimum effort in so far, and that is why he was no longer in McDermott's plans, you've just given him an extended paycheck, as have widnes. He'll continue to give away too many penalties and for that, i'm happy.'"
Seeing you obviously know more about Ben Cross than MM and all at our club, would you be interested in putting your name forward for the vacant coaching position at Wigan, your insight is being wasted on these forums. |
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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t]
[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: twosevenzero "Seeing you obviously know more about Ben Cross than MM and all at our club, would you be interested in putting your name forward for the vacant coaching position at Wigan, your insight is being wasted on these forums.'"
where did i say i did? i'm just putting across my views on Cross signing for you, like everyone else on this thread, after all, that is what these forums are for. |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "you don't want some lube, sitting on cross' johnson must be wreaking havoc. ![]()
I'd be interested to know if you watch the NRL? If so how can you question Cross as a player who was fantastic only last year for the Knights. If you don't watch the NRL then how can you possibly judge Cross on the handful of games he had at a declining Leeds?
Lets face it none/hardly any of their 'superstars' are ripping up the SL.
Considering no one knows how much Cross is on at Wigan, there can't be any questioning if he's worth the money, even before he plays.
For me we have signed a player who MM has worked with twice before, a prop who was last year ripping up the best rugby comp around.
Considering the above I welcome Cross and hope he contributes to successes in both the SL and CC.
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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t]
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I'd be interested to know if you watch the NRL? If so how can you question Cross as a player who was fantastic only last year for the Knights. If you don't watch the NRL then how can you possibly judge Cross on the handful of games he had at a declining Leeds?
Lets face it none/hardly any of their 'superstars' are ripping up the SL.
Considering no one knows how much Cross is on at Wigan, there can't be any questioning if he's worth the money, even before he plays.
For me we have signed a player who MM has worked with twice before, a prop who was last year ripping up the best rugby comp around.
Considering the above I welcome Cross and hope he contributes to successes in both the SL and CC.'"
I do and he was far from fantastic, no civonaceva(sp) or thaiday for example. He was an okay forward over there, nothing more, nothing less, so to describe him as fantastic is laughable given the wealth of talent available over there and how pathetic his performances for leeds have been. You are right, if you are paying the price for cross that moved o leeds then youll have a big hole in the pocket, but if your paying for what he performed like at leeds then you are all right and an extra player who is as experienced as he is then it could be a bargain. But probably shouldnt judge until he's made an appearance for you. |
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Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery.......
I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself.
Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king"
'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure'
'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it'
Worry will not prevent destiny from unfolding.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3632.jpg |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "where did i say i did? i'm just putting across my views on Cross signing for you, like everyone else on this thread, after all, that is what these forums are for.'"
Read your own post, you dont just give opinions you state facts, he is not the player he was, he only wants a paycheck, he puts in minimum effort, he will continue to give away penalties...........do you not believe a club like Wigan and a top coach like MM have considered the other options before signing Cross ?, as you say you can have an opinion, but dont give it as fact, maybe use IMO a little more. |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "I do and he was far from fantastic, no civonaceva(sp) or thaiday for example. He was an okay forward over there, nothing more, nothing less, so to describe him as fantastic is laughable given the wealth of talent available over there and how pathetic his performances for leeds have been. You are right, if you are paying the price for cross that moved o leeds then youll have a big hole in the pocket, but if your paying for what he performed like at leeds then you are all right and an extra player who is as experienced as he is then it could be a bargain. But probably shouldnt judge until he's made an appearance for you.'"
Disagree. Even with such outstanding forwards in the NRL Cross was excellent for the Knights. I will be more than happy if we see 'the Cross of the Knights' when playing for the champs. |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Disagree. Even with such outstanding forwards in the NRL Cross was excellent for the Knights. I will be more than happy if we see 'the Cross of the Knights' when playing for the champs.'"
The Cross Of The Knights? Sounds like a Black Sabbath song circa 1982  |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "I do and he was far from fantastic, no civonaceva(sp) or thaiday for example. He was an okay forward over there, nothing more, nothing less, so to describe him as fantastic is laughable given the wealth of talent available over there and how pathetic his performances for leeds have been. You are right, if you are paying the price for cross that moved o leeds then youll have a big hole in the pocket, but if your paying for what he performed like at leeds then you are all right and an extra player who is as experienced as he is then it could be a bargain. But probably shouldnt judge until he's made an appearance for you.'"
Or 2 appearances, we'll see how he goes first |
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "I do and he was far from fantastic, no civonaceva(sp) or thaiday for example. He was an okay forward over there, nothing more, nothing less, so to describe him as fantastic is laughable given the wealth of talent available over there and how pathetic his performances for leeds have been. You are right, if you are paying the price for cross that moved o leeds then youll have a big hole in the pocket, but if your paying for what he performed like at leeds then you are all right and an extra player who is as experienced as he is then it could be a bargain. But probably shouldnt judge until he's made an appearance for you.'"
You've sure done a good job of that so far!  |
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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t]
[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: twosevenzero "Read your own post, you dont just give opinions you state facts, he is not the player he was, he only wants a paycheck, he puts in minimum effort, he will continue to give away penalties...........do you not believe a club like Wigan and a top coach like MM have considered the other options before signing Cross ?, as you say you can have an opinion, but dont give it as fact, maybe use IMO a little more. ![]()
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, all of the things i said above.
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