Much better placed... from outside the playoffs.

I was thinking that, myself.

Winning the CC is great for drumming up interest in your own town, but I don't think it has the national kudos that it used to have because everyone now knows it's nothing like the test that winning the Grand Final is.

Warrington are clearly going the right way. Smith seems to have straightened out a lot of the Wire idiots, and if they pull off all these signings, they'll be a force to be reckoned with - but they're still something like 10th in the league. Not well placed in that respect.

I didnt mean for the rest of this season, anyway, if the fluff that goes around on here Noble is an idiot and we will be knocked out in the first week of the play offs anyway.

For 2010 Wire will finish well above us in the league, that is without doubt.

Wire finish above us in the League next year, are you kidding?
Last night was told when Clarke is fit, Tony Smith will go with him and Higham at 9 with Monaghan going back to his best position of 7.
Cracker is that!!!!!!!!!
So how's this wonder team with the best coach in the World going to go on at HKR tomorrow night?

That's a load of rubbish. Myler will play 7.

It depend on who comes in for wire next year as to whether they'll finish above us, if they do succeed in getting Myler, Atkins and another prop to replace Rauhihi then they could well finish above us, one big advantage wire have over us and most others in superleague is there frontrow.

How would you define 'well above us'?

2-3 places.

Like Warrington being 'well above' Bradford this year?
Or even Huddersfield being 'well above' Wakefield?

did anything come of the press conference on Thursday. The usual Wigan rumour mill was in overdrive again with some posters believing Mcguire was going to be announced with the season ticket prices been due out. Not heard anything since. I.m assuming that its again no news on the coaching/signings saga.

IMO if and when we don't strengthen where we need to strengthen Wire will finish above us next season. They're squad is great and they have an even better coach.

They certainly are moving in the right direction whilst we don't seem to be moving backwards but nor do we seem to be moving forwards - stalling is what I'd describe it as.

100% correct.

I think they will push the season tickets on the back of going forward with our young players. We will be at the start of another "It will take us at least three years..." if that is what we do. Don't get me wrong I want to see the young players who are ready get the opportunities but I have never believed we can be a success without a mix of our own home grown players and quality signings.

From Mike's site the rumour is Bailey has been offered a 1 year contract (from Crunchers favourite person CPW aka Charlie Seeling). I like Bailey but he isn't real quality.

If we re-sign Bailey then what opportunities will there be for the young back row forwards?

I am not optimistic for 2010 at all because if we do re-sign Bailey I think it means Noble will get at least another year as it wil be "his squad".

In other words its OK pushing the youth angle but the club has signed up all the players Noble selects who keep them out of the team.

Dave

Think that was a wind-up

Bailey has NOT been offered a one year playing contract.

The same as this year? The young lads have had plenty of game time in the second row this year.