3 years ago this club was in a right mess, it takes a long time to sort things out, how long before Newcastle Utd will be challenging for honours again ? A long time I think.
At least we can see some improvement, the reserves unbeaten 12 months, a very good head of marketing Mick Hogan, and a team capable of beating anyone, a couple of good sighnings and some consistancy next season.

I think Noble*s time is up,,,,Whatever happens,but it will be interesting to see who Leneghan brings in!!!!!.......Even more if Wigan do get some some silverware this season which could well happen.

Andy we will have to agree to disagree, and I don't have a problem with that, but, it was you who brought up the lack of ambition and the Millward factor.

I simply replied, with reason. And please don't patronise me over the 60 years.

I do have ambition, and care about the club. I only mentioned the reserves and academy as an indication of how the club is moving forward. Under Millward the WHOLE club would have been suffocated. As I said, read Radlinskis book and see what Noble had to contend with when he took over.
It's going to take time, and IMO Noble deserves that time.

Agree Rogues, Fans Forum on August 5th with IL might answer some questions !!!!!

I brought up Millward to highlight your inconsistency in argument by using Noble's record at another club as a defence. I've read Rads book thanks, and I've already said I've no time for Millward.

For someone who has consistently bellyached about how house the reserves system is I'm astounded you're trying to use that as some kind of defence of Noble's record.

After three years of standing still (and if you take Noble's record for us in 2006 in terms of victories it's actually going backward) and underachieving, I'd call wanting more of the same as lacking ambition. Like you say we'll just have to agree to disagree.

All you that are calling Noble at the moment, will you be still calling him should you win either or both the GF& CC?

wiganstu wroteIt's a good job that school has finished as it's past your bed time.

How about practise what you preach, I really would have expected better from you! stu made his point you don't agree fair enough...but the childish comments at the end about past his bed time..I thought you were above that. everyone has an opinion..like you agreed to disagree with wigan.leeds andy.

and with that quote you should be banned from this forum , what have we won under him ?

What did you expect to win within the first 3 years if him taking over a team cast adrift at the bottom of the league?

I have my problems with him for sure and i'm not convinced either way about keeping him on but i never expected trophies from him in such a short space of time.

We were in a total mess when he took over.

With a statement like that you should be banned

The thing is how far have we come under him and the answer is a long way.

We have improved our league position been to 2 final eliminators a CC semi. Had more youngsters staying with the club and with the help of I.L. not broken the S.C. rules and still have a better team than when he came.

If a new coach comes and we do not make a massive step forward will he have to go to then we can get back to changing the coach with the wind direction

we are just going over old ground .

maybe we could have 1 won of the semi's if we had got the week previous off , but that would mean would would need to play better over the season to finish higher up the table ?

get my drift ??

the mentality of noble is to start performing in the last quarter of the season , his record with us and bradford proves this

my thoughts are consistency over the season breeds confidence , not just a 3 or 4 game winning streak later on

why ?? ([iit seems acceptable for old rogues to say that to me ?)[/i

for not agreeing with people , for having an opinion differetn to yours ?

get real , i made a statement that people said was wrong , i proved them wrong then rogues belittles me

refer to one of my 'classics' as rogues puts it , the fans get sucked in with this upturn in performance every season

if we werent starting from so far behind in the first place we would have a better chance of winning

check all my past posts i have been constant over the last 2 years regarding Noble. He has worked wonders with the club since he came and is the best British coach by far.

Yes. If we win anything this season it will be despite Noble, not thanks to him.

I think the players lift their game when they are self-motivated such as near the end of the season when Old Trafford is in their sights or for the Challenge Cup. They are not motivated early in the season because the cups seem so far away and they are not motivated by playing such teams as Celtic away, with holidays abroad looming.
It is up to Noble to motivate them when self-motivation isn't there. He has clearly failed to do this and must go. We should not be so far adrift of Saints.