It really is funny how after 1 good performance you surface have a pop and then vanish when it all goes wrong. Where have you been for the last few weeks since the Bradford game.

From the evidence of this season i am not convinved no, is the answer to your question on all 3 counts, maybe occasionally he sends us out with the right game plan but the evidence of us being 9th with a game extra played over most other teams is hardly testament to his coaching this season.

RHJ i will turn it on you see where you stand on this, do you still think that all the players are useless and poor players?

Sadly it seems from your cameo posts after 1 good performance its all very black and white to you, others are quick to criticise poor coaching of which there has been plenty but also happy to praise it and Noble off the back of such performances as we saw on Saturday. Its called a balanced view rather than hiding for weeks on end then slating those who do not share your opinion once in a blue moon.

This is true. We have played you lot twice this year, and been outplayed twice.

In the Easter game, we were lucky our defence stood strong, because it could have been another whitewash. Against a better team last week, we would have had 50 past us. We were lucky not to get nilled this week by you lot. There are a lot of cracks forming, we will find it hard to turn around that level of performance by this weekend, so will be out of the cup; then another trip to France which is a traditional defeat for us.

Ive been on here i have not disappeared at all.



So you still think he cannot coach attacking rugby? Yes you have just proved your a moron congratulations.



I do not think the team on paper is as good as people make out no.




You dont have a balanced view though do you? Your view is that Noble is a poor coach and you know better and he won things at Bradford just by luck and that he cannot coach anything other than 5 drives and a kick.

Are you not going to admit that Noble can coach attacking rugby? I take it you think Saturdays game was boring 5 drives and a kick?

To be fair Jonh!

We have to put up with Far too much "Sack the Coach" from the Quick Fix Brigade (And believe it or not depsite your stance on Noble I don't put you in with this lot) that after a few good wins it's no wonder they/we want to give some back!

I have said it Many Many times before, Particularly on the "Turning the Ship Around" post that Rome was built in a day.

It took ML 8 years from coming in to winning the League, We had 4 coaches in that period taking one step at a time.

IL chose to stick with Noble for his 2 x seasons in charge of Wigan. IL must have thought that a certain amount of stability could be gained from this and at that point he may have been right.

Will he stick with him for the next 2 x seasons? Not sure?
What I will say is I don't agree that Sacking him at virtually any point in the last 2 x years like some have wanted would have helped us Short term.

Then there's the question of Who would want to come as if they were'nt successful (Positive Points difference is a must for some ) immediately the fans would have been shouting for him to be sacked and the chairman Bows down to their wishes!

We've been there before!

RJH you have been on here just very quiet on any Noble related issue, and just like last time after the Bradford game you decide to pipe up and have a pop. You seem to take an issue with anyone that does not share your opinion. The difference is between me and you i hope i am wrong for the good of the club you just seem to want to play the big I AM after 1 game.

Did i say he could not coach attacking rugby in that post, what i am saying is he is clearly at times sent us out with the wrong game plan, given the way we have proven we can perform.

You called them poor players and a bunch of no hopers or words to that effect, do you stand by this?

Not once have a said i know better, but it is refreshing to see things that me and others highlighted as wrong with the gameplan these things have changed or at least do seem to when we play well.

Still waiting for you to pull out this post that you continue to quote where i said it was luck that he won trophies at Bradford something you seem to base much of your criticism of me about.

The only thing that I have real issue with regarding this debate is the use of that particular statistic. Whilst I agree in a 'black and white' world that would indeed be a reasonable argument, surely the point here is not where we stand after a poor start to the season, but how we appear to be going now and if this will continue? More to the point, given the obvious fact that most teams are having runs of poor form this season, something that I personally don't think we have seen the end of, surely the only statistic worth considering is where we will finish come the end of the season and whether that will be enough to take us to a final or even win some silverware..

I agree with you, though the point I would make is that where we are likely to be at the end of the season will be in part determined by the shockingly bad start to the season.

And there's nothing we can do about it Now!

So lets not keep going over old Ground Like some do and look at what we have to do next week!

Putting it into perspective though exactly how have we started to play? We have played well in 2 games, a coach has to get his team to somewhere near there best for at least 70% plus of the season. We have played well on 2 occasions out of 12 and it is a story that is repeating itself season on season sadly. The consistency issue is massive and it seems to be getting worse not better. Consistency was also a massive issue with him for GB.

Was he the right man to bring stability to the club? Yes, but is he the man to take us to the next level? No.

LOL IN YOUR OPINION. You told us he could not coach exciting/attacking rugby yet this season we have shown on more than one occasion that he can. Whilst your entitled to your opinion, i think i speak for pretty much everyone when i say we are bored to tears of hearing your opinion of Brian Noble time and time again. Your like a stuck record going over the same thing. Despite you trying to worm your way out of it in the past you have said Noble won things at Bradford by luck. No i cannot be bothered to search through pages of past posts because theres so many of yours having a go at Noble that it would take me forever to find it. If your expert opinion of him not being able to take us to the next level is as accurate of your early season opinion that he could not coach attacking/exciting rugby then i think we would all be wise to take your opinion with a very large dose of salt!