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Quote: Cruncher "Money will bring in a quality coach. Whether Wigan are prepared, or able, to produce enough of it is another question.'"


Wont happen till the end of the season Think about it in real terms. For Noble to be sacked now the club would have to pay his contract up which would probably cost £100,000 then if we wanted a top coach and i would think all the best ones are employed it would cost the club again in a fee to the club he works for plus his wages. Then he would want to bring in his own backroom staff again costing money to pay up the ones we have now that he want rid of also he would want to buy in players your probably looking in the region of around £300.000 if not more its not worth it for now. The time to make the changes is end of season move people out and bring new ones in and start a fresh next year. There is no relegation so there is no panic all the change the coach with the change of wind direction is not what we need.

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I'm struggling to see what this top class coach can achieve in the three years he'll need to re-build the current mess into something like a decent side. Mid table is the best that can be hoped for.

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Quote: Cruncher "You can't assure us of any such thing. You're a fan, just like us.'"


I'm sure enough to stake a modest wager on it.

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Quote: Mugwump "I'm struggling to see what this top class coach can achieve in the three years he'll need to re-build the current mess into something like a decent side. Mid table is the best that can be hoped for.'"


Thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to Wigan's plans and ambitions. For which reason, this conversation is over.

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Quote: Cruncher "Thankfully your opinion is irrelevant to Wigan's plans and ambitions.'"


I was under the impression there aren't any.

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Quote: Andy Greg "Wont happen till the end of the season Think about it in real terms. For Noble to be sacked now the club would have to pay his contract up which would probably cost £100,000 then if we wanted a top coach and i would think all the best ones are employed it would cost the club again in a fee to the club he works for plus his wages. Then he would want to bring in his own backroom staff again costing money to pay up the ones we have now that he want rid of also he would want to buy in players your probably looking in the region of around £300.000 if not more its not worth it for now. The time to make the changes is end of season move people out and bring new ones in and start a fresh next year. There is no relegation so there is no panic all the change the coach with the change of wind direction is not what we need.'"


I wonder what it will cost the club though if we continue to have a shocking season under BN..... attendances are already falling.....??

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Quote: FearTheVee "So why did Noble sign a centre (Gleeson) and a winger (Roberts)?

He should have ignored Riddell and Roberts, shifted TL to 9 to play with McIlorum and signed a 7 and a prop.'"


Did Noble make these buys. Its well known he didn't want Riddell.

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Quote: Orrell Lad "Have a look at the pre-season predictions thread on the VT, you will find a lot of neutrals putting Wigan as the nearest challengers to Leeds/Stains.

HTH'"


Ok pick me your ideal 17 that is supposedly one of the top three in SL. I agree Nobby isn't helping but if you feel somebody is going to wander in and suddenly every player will come good then your badly deluded. Your pack is a shambles at the moment. Riddell is little if any better than Higham and seems seriously unfit. S.Tompkins is a quality player but your relying on him too much because Tim Smith can't be trusted until he learns to tackle. Leului is doing a good job but i'm sure would prefer to play at 9. Your back line has improved with the addition of Gleeson and looks good but overall I really dont see anything that great about your squad that makes you think your capable of top 3. Don't get me wrong your players are quite a lot better than the table suggests but you will NOT finish 3rd with the team you have at the moment either this season or any other. You have some good players but you have some who are very average and you can't expect them to become anything special just because of a change of coach icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Deano G "I wonder what it will cost the club though if we continue to have a shocking season under BN..... attendances are already falling.....??'"


A lot less than a big change now its only the walk up attendance that will suffer and the JJB take a cut of that money. And there is also a good chance we will hit form later in the year and go on a good run into the playoffs better the devil you know until the end of the season and it will cost less.

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Quote: AJ "Did Noble make these buys. Its well known he didn't want Riddell.'"


He didnt really want Riddell,he wanted a stand off and was obsessed with us getting Greg Bird and i fail to believe he was happy with such a weak front row.

The signing of Gleeson was a good one but as i said to you hes not going to make much difference when the forwards are getting crushed. IL now needs to do everything in his power to get a prop quickly and next season a proper halfback.

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Quote: FearTheVee "So why did Noble sign a centre (Gleeson) and a winger (Roberts)?

He should have ignored Riddell and Roberts, shifted TL to 9 to play with McIlorum and signed a 7 and a prop.'"


I think your dead right there mate

We signed a winger and a hooker when we needed a prop and stand off.

Phelps
Ainscough
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
*STAND OFF*
Sam
Fielden
Tommy
*PROP*
Hock
Hansen
Lockers

Feka
Joel
Prescott
McIlorum

That should have been what the side shaped up like but recruitment made was the wrong choice of players (apart from Gleeson)

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Quote: AJ "Did Noble make these buys. Its well known he didn't want Riddell.'"


Its a poor state of affairs if he didn't, it makes it harder for the chairman to sack noble if he buys players the coach doesnt want. Who is running WRLC ?

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "He didnt really want Riddell,he wanted a stand off and was obsessed with us getting Greg Bird and i fail to believe he was happy with such a weak front row.

The signing of Gleeson was a good one but as i said to you hes not going to make much difference when the forwards are getting crushed. IL now needs to do everything in his power to get a prop quickly and next season a proper halfback.'"


This is what im asking. Who is making the signings. This doesn't look like a BN squad.

Its lacking a world class half back and 2 world class props.

Gleeson has sorted the backs, we now have 3 wingers for 2 positions, Richards is never ever a fullback.

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Quote: AJ "Did Noble make these buys. Its well known he didn't want Riddell.'"


Lol Noble probably didn’t want Riddell but to start to suggest Noble isn’t signing players but instead it’s IL doing it is laughable. It just goes how far some people we go to defend Noble and the straws they will clutch at.

It’s pure fantasy to think that Noble would still be here if he wasn’t allowed to sign the players he wanted simple as! Why would any coach stay at a club when the owner is interfering in such a big aspect of the coaches job.

If it is true then Noble needs to grow a back bone. Either way it’s laughable or Noble is a wimp/puppet neither one is welcome as Wigan’s head coach imo.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "Lol Noble probably didn’t want Riddell but to start to suggest Noble isn’t signing players but instead it’s IL doing it is laughable. It just goes how far some people we go to defend Noble and the straws they will clutch at.

It’s pure fantasy to think that Noble would still be here if he wasn’t allowed to sign the players he wanted simple as! Why would any coach stay at a club when the owner is interfering in such a big aspect of the coaches job.

If it is true then Noble needs to grow a back bone. Either way it’s laughable or Noble is a wimp/puppet neither one is welcome as Wigan’s head coach imo.'"


Im not defending him. I have said in other threads, time has past for Noble at Wigan.

I am askign questions that need to be answered.

Why didnt we sign the halfback & prop that Stevie Wonder could see we needed?

Why sign Roberts - he isn't a Noble player and wasn't needed.

Gleeson fair enough.

Who actually bought Riddell and why didn't we sign Ennis?

Who made these decisions - they are responsible for alot of our problems.

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