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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"I’m not everyone but I’ve never said that.
I think we need some experienced proven players. That might or it might not work. Hopefully more signings to be announced.
What do you suggest? I’m not being aggressive but genuinely interested on what you consider we should be doing with the squad.'"
Exactly what we are doing with it. We're bringing in players that will improve us and there are more apparently to come. I never like losing games and obviously semi finals and finals always hurt more, but you have to reach them to lose them. At least 8 sides would have swapped places with us this weekend and wanted to play in a semi final.
As I said on the other thread, the test now is what we learn from these defeats but as usual it's baby out with the bathwater and we see a handful of posters (not you) come back to the board that always seem to vanish when we win.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"Exactly what we are doing with it. We're bringing in players that will improve us and there are more apparently to come. I never like losing games and obviously semi finals and finals always hurt more, but you have to reach them to lose them. At least 8 sides would have swapped places with us this weekend and wanted to play in a semi final.
As I said on the other thread, the test now is what we learn from these defeats but as usual it's baby out with the bathwater and we see a handful of posters (not you) come back to the board that always seem to vanish when we win.'"
The announced signings aren’t going to improve us that much let’s be honest.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"The announced signings aren’t going to improve us that much let’s be honest.
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Let’s see where we finish up.
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| For me, what we lack most is 2 extra coaches - Both of which we've had before and lost/given up.
The first is obvious - A full-time replacement attacking coach.
We've played at our best when we had Briers/Deacon coaching the halves.
The second is a short(ish) term specialist kicking coach.
I know that we have a kicker joining us for next year, but we need someone to both instill confidence in Harry and to train at least 1 more player to be a decent backup kicker, in case of injuries/suspensions.
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"For me, what we lack most is 2 extra coaches - Both of which we've had before and lost/given up.
The first is obvious - A full-time replacement attacking coach.
We've played at our best when we had Briers/Deacon coaching the halves.
The second is a short(ish) term specialist kicking coach.
I know that we have a kicker joining us for next year, but we need someone to both instill confidence in Harry and to train at least 1 more player to be a decent backup kicker, in case of injuries/suspensions.'"
Improve coaching, yes.
Massive fans of Tommy and Lockers but straight in as coaches? Peet also, but he is head coach and I think he will be a good coach in time but he needs help. On the positive side Peet picked us up off the floor and we played good rugby and won some silver. Going backwards now. Some promising signings for next year but need at least one metre eater at prop and more faith in the lads coming through.
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"For me, what we lack most is 2 extra coaches - Both of which we've had before and lost/given up.
The first is obvious - A full-time replacement attacking coach.
We've played at our best when we had Briers/Deacon coaching the halves.
The second is a short(ish) term specialist kicking coach.
I know that we have a kicker joining us for next year, but we need someone to both instill confidence in Harry and to train at least 1 more player to be a decent backup kicker, in case of injuries/suspensions.'"
Isn’t Tommy L our attacking coach?
How can we lack a coach we already have?
He isn’t good enough is what you’re saying.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"The announced signings aren’t going to improve us that much let’s be honest.
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Our recruitment isn’t over, and neither are the departures from the club.
The biggest single short term change to be made is to get French back on the wing and Cust in at 6.
Beyond this season we need to bring in a 6 and let Cust go.
Keighran can play 6 so we may need to bring in a centre.
Whilst there is a hole in my rear Bevan is not a 6.
Miski has been great especially on our early set carries, his highball work has significantly improved too, but defensively in regards positioning he gets it wrong and he lacks the pace to take advantage of the half opportunities.
Ultimately we won’t get the best out of the team with French at 6.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"The announced signings aren’t going to improve us that much let’s be honest.
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You can add Mago and Cust to the departures, and then possibly Isa, Thornley (club needs to be ruthless with these 2 i'm afraid). that must give us some scope for addtional recruits. We have Faz as senior 2nd row, and we need to be planning for him playing less time next year, so either a signing alongside Nsemba or other junior(s) coming through. Thornley can be replaced by one of our kids, if we are planning on Wardle / Keighran being 1st choice centres
Most fans (especially on the warriors fans forum) dont rate Powell or Singleton anyway, so they arent a loss are they, so Leeming and Chan or Walters have to be upgrades, until they have a poor game, and then arent good enough
In reponse to one of the earlier posters we brought Mike Cooper in and to an extent Singleton to be our pack leaders, one hasnt really lived up to the billing and Cooper season cut short through injury. Many fans have said we needed centres for the past 2-3 seasons, we sign 2 and some still arent happy, so what are the club to do
with French and Field we have 2 of the most destructive players in the league, and the challenge is clearly how to get them both in the side, with hands on the ball and retain a functioning team. I think if Cust hadnt been injured, we may have seen a slightly different outcome and French may possibly have stayed on the wing and Miski could have been leaving. However, Miski took his chance, and whilst he hasnt got the speed of French, he does offer a massive return when bringing the ball out from our own end, and has a decent scoring record
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| I don't think the club needs a reality check but I agree we need to get back that intensity of the Maguire / Wane era and not accepting defeat easily.
The biggest thing we are missing is leadership on the pitch. When the going gets tough we lose all composure and start giving away dumb penalties, dropping off tackles, sloppy offloads, etc.
You can see it coming a mile off, teams get on a roll against us with a quick play the ball and the un-ravelling escalates quickly. Nobody seems to be directing us to slow things down and tighten it up, it's so predictable and horrible to watch.
We need a calm head to guide us and Farrell, Smith, French & co aren't that guy.
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| Quote Orrell Lad="Orrell Lad"I don't think the club needs a reality check but I agree we need to get back that intensity of the Maguire / Wane era and not accepting defeat easily.
The biggest thing we are missing is leadership on the pitch. When the going gets tough we lose all composure and start giving away dumb penalties, dropping off tackles, sloppy offloads, etc.
You can see it coming a mile off, teams get on a roll against us with a quick play the ball and the un-ravelling escalates quickly. Nobody seems to be directing us to slow things down and tighten it up, it's so predictable and horrible to watch.
We need a calm head to guide us and Farrell, Smith, French & co aren't that guy.'"
Now that I agree with.
Our game management is poor in tight, difficult games at times BUT it was under Maguire and Wane at times also.
I don't think there were issues with our defence on Sunday, in fact I thought we were excellent apart from letting SKD offload, but we made four of five strange calls second half which put us under pressure rather than putting more pressure on them culminating in the really strange call to kick early in golden point.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"Now that I agree with.
Our game management is poor in tight, difficult games at times BUT it was under Maguire and Wane at times also.
I don't think there were issues with our defence on Sunday, in fact I thought we were excellent apart from letting SKD offload, but we made four of five strange calls second half which put us under pressure rather than putting more pressure on them culminating in the really strange call to kick early in golden point.'"
A good experienced HB would remedy some of that imo. Taking the right options at the right time etc. People have differing opinions on French, but one thing we can all agree on is that he's unorthodox in the way he plays. Is that the right option for what we need? Personally, I don't think so but others will disagree.
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| Things aren’t as bad as this thread might make you believe IMO but I agree with a lot of points for improvement. The mains ones for me being-
-We need two more experienced and proven quality forwards for next year (if we get get one of them for this year than great)
-We need a steady hand and a natural halfback at 6. The spine is too inexperienced to shoe horn in a second full back at stand off. I’ve been patient-ish with the move but I think I’d be making the change come Saturday.
-The players and Peet need to learn lessons. Peet is young, the spine players are young and days like Sunday can happen but take your medicine and make sure it doesn’t happen next time. If you’re prepared to put a young player on the bench, use him. If you’re in positions to win the game, make sure you’ve practised until it’s second nature how you nail it. When you have the ball on the opposition line, in those conditions, stop going for the glory play and show some patience. The amount of times we threw wild passes or kicked possession away was really poor.
I honestly don’t think we’re too far away from having a fantastic side ‘if’ we can get things right over this next few months.
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