One thing I will say about the supposed record sales, is that it was always likely to be the case, unless the fans on mass decided to boycott the new badge. A lot of people like to have up to date gear and a brand new badge was always likely to get people out buying new items on mass. I also think people wanted to do their bit during Covid, to purchase merchandise and help put money in to the club. I do believe the quote that they had hugely increased sales but I don’t think you’ll get a really accurate picture until we’ve had this badge for a few seasons.

I’ve always got the frustrations of people and I don’t particularly rate the badge myself but I absolutely understand the reasons behind it. If they had their time again I’d like to think they’d possibly have tweaked the design and handled the launch differently but it’s done now and it doesn’t cross my mind other than the off time a thread crops up on here.

I'd like to think you will be buying 4 x Ellgren Retro shirts complete with crest then.

1. Gives you a shirt to wear on match days.
2. Puts much needed revenue into the clubs coffers.

Due to work commitments I've been unable to purchase a season ticket for a few years now but have put the same amount in ££ of merchandise to cover. I will also hope to get to as many games as I can, paying on gate.

Producing a fabric in two colours isn’t more expensive than just simple old white?
Cost was according to KR a major consideration in changing the badge. Perhaps one of the most intricate badges anywhere in world is the All Blacks badge. Do honestly expect the All Blacks to ever change their iconic Silver Birch badge due to cost or some daft marketing need?

If a clubs badge can be changed why can’t our colours?? Everything is up for grabs. Name, badge why not colours? I’d quite like blue shirts and white shorts for home games then primrose and blue for away games. That’ll keep the landlords happy and I’m sure Wire & Leeds won’t mind changing their strips when they play us their grounds. The year after we could play in pink home and away. That’ll significantly increase our LGBT+ credentials and major cost savings in production costs. Win win. Get in.


Not sure which bit you think I made up or maybe I’m being silly again?

Ah is it keeping the A&L on heritage gear where the club haven’t ditched our heritage??
Very thoughtful and I’m sure they haven’t included the enormous cost of producing the A&L in the retail prices for heritage items??

Maybe a few of us hold our heritage to be sacrosanct. Nah I’m just being silly again.

This is why I believe the club should have a retro/heritage section in the club shop and online. For those supporters happy to purchase new merchandise can carry on doing so, those supporters who prefer the more traditional merchandise can continue to support the club and wear their colours with pride.

If the club receive enough feedback from those frustrated fans (especially if there is a significant minority) it makes sense to cater to them if it is commercially viable.

They have got some retro shirts on the site already but it is something they will hopefully extend over time.

Pemps needs roll the clock back and get banging out the retro shirts. Got a good few in the wardrobe.

My lads love all the old Ellgren stuff that I always thought was a bit naff.
If there is a market for it somebody somewhere will fill the demand.

Some of the new merchandise is pretty decent and my grandson loves it however, personally I’d just love to see the A&L on it.
By the way my grandson would love anything to do with Wigan the badge means nothing to him.

They were good! Still got a Feka 'Wrecking Ball' one.

Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They have got some retro shirts on the site already but it is something they will hopefully extend over time. Pemps needs roll the clock back and get banging out the retro shirts. Got a good few in the wardrobe.'" The club do have a link to a retro merchandise section on the website, when you click the link it takes you to a third party site which I assume the club take a % from. https://theturnstilestore.co.uk/collect ... ile_261121

Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They have got some retro shirts on the site already but it is something they will hopefully extend over time. Pemps needs roll the clock back and get banging out the retro shirts. Got a good few in the wardrobe.'" The club do have a link to a retro merchandise section on the website, when you click the link it takes you to a third party site which I assume the club take a % from. https://theturnstilestore.co.uk/collect ... ile_261121

Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They have got some retro shirts on the site already but it is something they will hopefully extend over time.'" https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/11/ ... tro-range/ No longer advertised for sale weirdly, although they were definitely hanging up in the club shop on sale a couple of weeks ago (both home and away), maybe out of stock? I'm going in the shop this week to get a couple of Christmas presents, will have a look.

Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They have got some retro shirts on the site already but it is something they will hopefully extend over time.'" https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/11/ ... tro-range/ No longer advertised for sale weirdly, although they were definitely hanging up in the club shop on sale a couple of weeks ago (both home and away), maybe out of stock? I'm going in the shop this week to get a couple of Christmas presents, will have a look.

That is strange. As you say maybe they’re out of stock and hopefully that is the case and they’ve been popular enough to convince them to expand that range at some point.

I think you’re starting to sound and look stupid on this topic.

The reasons given by the club are clear.

You cannot compare the All Blacks to Wigan. It’s a different sport, international team vs a club team and also completely different situations in terms of financial position, fan base etc.

The club are trying to generated better financials and increase fan base.

I’m no expert on logos but is that All Blacks one that difficult to produce? It’s a big leaf, in one colour with ‘All Blacks’ written underneath isn’t it?

It looks the total opposite to me. Simple, easy to produce and easy to splash over everything but I’m probably way off. It certainly looks easier to produce than our old badge, involving numerous different in details, in 6 or 7 different colours.