I imagine I'm like a lot of people: I'd love the idea of a fresh start with a completely different coach, but failing that, I'd take Waney back in a heartbeat. The 'not ideal' is a damn sight better than the bloody awful.

My concern is that we seem to have got worse since he has unofficially returned.

Agreed.

Like it or not Lam while an ex player was a “fresh start” under odd circumstances I’ll grant you,look how rancid it’s turned out so maybe for now Wane may be the answer?

I dunno, That doesn't look like a Shaun Wane side to me.

He's not been out on the training field though, more planning behind the scenes (unless my info is wrong).

I wouldn’t be too concerned tbh. If he’s back, it doesn’t seem to yet be in a capacity of taking training, giving pre/post match team talks etc and until that is the case, his influence will be limited. It could just as easily be that the form is poor because he’s around the club but in the sense that the players are sick of listening to Lam and would prefer Wane to take over immediately.

Correct.

Wane coaches that group of players and we make the last 3 at least.

Under Lam we aren't making the playoffs.

Wane or any other coach wouldn’t want to take charge at the moment.

We hit the ice berg about 4 months ago.

I want Lam out as much as anyone but are we really wanting to go back to a coach we’ve had before when it’s clear that we need fresh eyes and fresh ideas? I was one of those who was happy for Wane to leave. I felt we were going stale and needed a fresh approach. I don’t think we should look back, especially so soon. The obsession of bringing back ex employees is bizarre.

Don’t get me wrong I’d be happy until the end of the season but I don’t believe Wane is who we want permanently. For me it’s Shane Flanagan/Brian Mac all day long.

Wane till the end of the season gives us a chance of making the Grand Final IMO. I agree with others that after that I'd prefer someone new with no previous connection to the club, but for now we can't turn our noses up at Wane if he wants to come. I don't know why he left in the first place though so don't know whether the issue is resolved.

While I think that we need a fresh coaching approach (thinking about the massive changes that came about when Madge implemented everything he'd learned not only from NRL, but also NFL and others), I would LOVE to hear the club say that Lam was being replaced by Wane today.

My hope (Note that I say "hope", not "expectation") is that he will bring at least SOME new approach(es), based on whatever he may have learned from Rugby Union.

We certainly can't be any worse off under him - Although I am REALLY worried that Matty Peet will just be more of the same as Lammy. Although at least he learnt his trade under SW, not AL.