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| Quote Fartown58="Fartown58"Watched the games last week, one of the commentators wants to learn how to pronounce the players names. (Its not the first time its happened).
He kept saying "Marmo" and Matangi. There's no "R" in Mamo & no "N" in Matagi.
Also he should get his facts correct. In the Wigan / Wakefield game he kept saying that Wakefield were bottom of the league, but at the time of the game HKR were bottom.'"
matagi is correct, in polynesian/samoan dialect a G is pronounced as a 'ng' sound.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"matagi is correct, in polynesian/samoan dialect a G is pronounced as a 'ng' sound.'"
Cheers for that. You learn something new everyday.
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| Quote Fartown58="Fartown58"Cheers for that. You learn something new everyday.'"
Hence Joe Vagana being pronounced VaNgana
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| This is quite interesting...
In Samoan, the letter G is pronounced as though there is an N before that G, so Ulugia is pronounced UluNGia, Vagana is pronounced VaNGana.
Tongan pronunciation is easier but many disregard the vowels at the end of names. Therefore, Sekope should sound like Sekop-eh, not Sekop-ee.
In Maori, the most common mistake is the pronunciation of words and names starting with the letters Wh, which sounds like F. Not a problem for rugby commentators, but in the NRL Manly's Dean Whare (Far-ay) has had to make it known.
In the Fijian language things get a bit trickier. What is written as C is pronounced as Th, while Qs should sound like Ng. So Rokocoko is pronounced RokoTHoko, and Tuqiri is pronounced TuNGiri.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Hence Joe Vagana being pronounced VaNgana'"
well, funnily enough it was INGA the winger that first brought this to my attention since there wasn't an N in his first name Va'aigia
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"well, funnily enough it was INGA the winger that first brought this to my attention since there wasn't an N in his first name Va'aigia'"
I always just assumed he had the name "inga" somewhere in the middle of his forename. I thought the apostrophe in Va'aigia perhaps hid another 20 letters. Your version seems correct, but i prefer mine. 
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"This is quite interesting...
In Samoan, the letter G is pronounced as though there is an N before that G, so Ulugia is pronounced UluNGia, Vagana is pronounced VaNGana.
Tongan pronunciation is easier but many disregard the vowels at the end of names. Therefore, Sekope should sound like Sekop-eh, not Sekop-ee.
In Maori, the most common mistake is the pronunciation of words and names starting with the letters Wh, which sounds like F. Not a problem for rugby commentators, but in the NRL Manly's Dean Whare (Far-ay) has had to make it known.
In the Fijian language things get a bit trickier. What is written as C is pronounced as Th, while Qs should sound like Ng. So Rokocoko is pronounced RokoTHoko, and Tuqiri is pronounced TuNGiri.'"
So has everyone been pronouncing Lote Tuquiri's name wrong all this time and it should be Lote Tungiri?
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"well, funnily enough it was INGA the winger that first brought this to my attention since there wasn't an N in his first name Va'aigia'"
I always assumed it was due to his surname which is pronounced Tu-inga-mala rather than his forename. It could be either or both I suppose.
Some names from this part of the world have similar pronunciation trip hazards too like the 'mh' in celtic gaelic names such as Niamh and Mhairie which is pronounced as 'v' or the Scots name Menzies (pronounced Mingis) due to a no longer used letter in the Scots alphabet that is today written as 'nz' but is still pronounced.
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| Quote hengirl="hengirl"Give me Hemmings any day or the week over what’s there now'"
I will admit that tonight, so far, they are almost as bad as Eddie was.
The difference is that Eddie was bad because he was biased. Tez and Baz are bad because they're thick.
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| They completely bull the most random stats up...example tonight “What a strike rate...54 tries in 90-odd games” referring to Grace, as though its some sort of extra-ordinary feat of brilliance. Personally, I’d say a fairly standard return for a winger in the top 4 teams (not to discredit his all round game as he’s clearly a talented lad).
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| Quote ralvag="ralvag"They completely bull the most random stats up...example tonight “What a strike rate...54 tries in 90-odd games” referring to Grace, as though its some sort of extra-ordinary feat of brilliance. Personally, I’d say a fairly standard return for a winger in the top 4 teams (not to discredit his all round game as he’s clearly a talented lad).'"
Yeah for a winger at the best side in the comp during his 90 odd games, that is terrible.
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| According to Baz, he is being compared to Martin Offiah
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