Eddie's Wigan bashing is was what frustrated me most, it particularly showed from 2010 when we became a force again.

Personally I loved Stevo. Although what came out his mouth was sometimes nonsense, his enthusiasm and excitement in the commentary box was up there with the best.

Right now we're at an all time low. Barry and Terry despite being in their roles for years still consistently trip and stumble through their broadcasts. My other half (who's a southerner) often laughs out loud at the phrases they come out with during in a professional rugby league match. While Bill Arthur & Rodd Studd are lack luster. Carney and Wells are beacon of light within the team, but are often cancelled out when they have guests like Luke Gale and Jamie Peacock struggling to piece a sentence together.

Wilkin, Sinfield and S.Tomkins are the only ones who have shown true ability for a future in the punditry.

Can't add to any of this. For once, I agree with almost everything everyone has said.

Some good observations and comments on here. Agree with much that has been said but here is my pennies worth ....
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Bill Arthur - competent but shows no real enthusiasm or insight so get rid.
Baz - quite like him in small doses so possibly keep
Tez - sorry but get rid, dull
Brian - keep, an excellent front man
Wells - not bothered
Clarkey - a Wigan hero he might be but get rid, for interesting piece of insight there is is too much rubbish the most recent being the 'discussion' with Brian ref player welfare

For me get Dave Woods in. He is genuinely enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the game.
Wilkin - not sure, we don't see him that often so he seems ok but would he be ok on a weekly basis i don't know
Jiffy - a hero for us at Warrington but not convinced about his commentating BUT neutrals and non believers will know who he is

Who knows what kind of bargaining position we might be in anyway, could be we get what we get and have to lump it. Hope not.

Jiffys the worst of them all, hes so out of touch

Don't necessarily disagree with you.but at least people might know who he is.

Why does that matter?
If you don’t know RL, you don’t watch it.

Let’s not pretend we have anywhere near the product (on the field) to attract many ‘neutrals’ to watch Castleford v Salford on a Thursday night in February.

I beg to differ!

I hate Davies. I can't stand his peevish "Just watch!", as if the audience are naughty schoolboys who haven't been paying attention. And I don't understand why the Aussies can find ex-players with real tactical insights to offer, like Walters and Sterling (OK, Gasnier*, not so much!), whereas we end up with Cannon and Ball. Hemmings is obviously the worst. Quite apart from the ridiculous anti-Wigan bias, despite watching the game for half a life-time, he even seems to struggle to understand the rules.


* As I've remarked before, if you prevented Gasnier from saying "there's space behind the ruck" throughout a game, you would get lengthy periods of silence!

I just think the whole presentation of RL needs a revamp. Look at football, RU, cricket, darts on Sky. Half the time it’s not even the games that get the juices flowing but the presentation of the game. Even the NFL (which I find horribly boring) presentation is superb and tempts me in.

I enjoyed Eddie and Stevo to an extent. I think Stevo added a lot more to commentary than we ever gave him credit for and when he left there was a huge void. Same with Eddie now when you look at who’s replaced him in Bill Arthur who I have nothing against but he’s as dull as dishwater.

For me I’d bring in the whole BBC presentation team. Mark Chapman, Jiffy and Jon Wilkin whilst keeping Brian Carney, Jon Wells and Jenna Brooks from Sky and utilising Brian Noble, JP, JJB and other former RL stars. I’d also consider using Will Perry more, though admittedly his RL show on Sky isn’t great.

Commentary wise it has to be Dave Woods for me with a good summariser which could be Brian Carney and/or Jon Wells for your weekly “flagship” game and the others using other commentators (I can’t for the life of me remember the names of the back up commentators at sky).

Chris Kamara was one if the best pundits I've seen in the studio for a long time, which says it all about the usual lot they get in.

Have some of you ever considered that Eddie and Stevo created interest with their comments and their way of commentating?

I used to think the same about them, especially where Wigan was concerned until they retired and then realised how much they have been missed!

I've watched a few old games back and it's is remarkable how poor Wiggy and Stevo were looking back.

Davies is worse than both of them though.