For me the issue is the weak pack. Week after week we are getting bullied.

I've only seen London a couple of times (Toronto promotion match and tonight) and both times I've laughed when their fat number 8 has lined up but boy..... What an engine that lad has, puts most of ours to shame. For me was probably the best forward on the field tonight.

Is that how far weve fallen?

Are you suggesting we have to clear out a few Wane era players as well? And I don't mean because they are not good enough as individual players but because, for example, they can't adapt or resent a new coach?

Yes, also with him having been at the club for so long it will take at least a year or 2 to change the culture.

That isn’t a criticism of Wane it is a credit to him, however it is a very difficult job for the next man unless they want to maintain a watered down version of the Wane years.

Wane never had a team this bad

Building up to Easter we had 13 first team squad out injured (including some of the fringe players). We got a couple back for Cas which was played in torrential rain and on a very heavy pitch. Last night was our 4th game in 13 days and it’s perfectly understandable to have a flat performance.
We now have most players back (barring Faz, Sammut, Manfredi and Davies) and 10 days rest / prep before we play Warrington so let’s see how that goes. I’ve said it before, even somebody like Craig Bellamy would have struggled in the situation Lam found himself in.

The issue I have is Lam has used returning players as a life raft but realistically there’s only Faz who’ll be back this season who would make a major difference. He said last night Clubb is back for the Wire game but I’m not sure we should risk him. He looked totally unfit and sluggish before his knee injury, so it’s tough to see how he’ll cope with the pace of a CC tie against Wire.

Could the clique that is rumoured to be at the club be players Waney brought through from a young age?, Talks of certain players being shunned, If so the offenders need ousting

Spill the beans.

Yes, 100%. Under Wane we played like last night all season and then won the last 3 games and won the Grand Final which papered over the cracks.

I hope you're right, and I admire your optimism when discussing Lam, you make some fair points re-injuries etc (though the Craig Bellamy comment is a little much, I feel he would have had the players playing with ton more vigour than Lam does)

But in return this season has shown a massive fall from grace. The squad isn't massively different from the GF winning team who went on an unbeaten run in the playoffs, this can't be overlooked. The desire, the defence, the effort at times is nowhere near what it was. So far this season we've had one 80min performance, just one. All teams suffer injuries and have hectic fixtures in and around Easter, yet our style of play in attack and defence has been a far cry from what it once was.

Lam didn't take over a failing squad which needed time to develop, he took over a champion team; literally.

If anything this spell emphasises how good Wane was. He had bad moments, but consistently had us winning and appearing in finals.

Obviously I hope he turns its around, but all we can do is comment and review what's happened.

How is winning the GF papering over cracks? that's exactly what you're meant to do! Win.

I can see why most fans are frustrated and yes, we did go on a winning run to the GF last year. Before that, after it was announced that Wane was leaving we couldn’t buy a good performance and many were screaming for him to go immediately and not see the season out. The squad hasn’t changed much but it did lose 2 of its most influential players in Tomkins and Bateman.
The season before we had a horrendous run of of injuries and finished outside the top 4. That was also under Waney.
I’ve said a few times, I’m just a bit more relaxed about things. With better luck we could be further up the ladder and we could we’ll go on another winning run.