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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"Trying to decide whether Wigan managed to be even worse in the first half today than they were last week. Close call.
I think Lenagan is in a bit of a quandry here. I sense he'll be concerned as anyone but can you sack a coach who's won 5 trophies in 5 years? There would be a lot of external criticism if that decision was made.
But I think most would predict that the decline will continue until we start afresh.'"
Yes, you absolutely can.
Wane knows as well as anyone you can't trade on past glories alone. Injuries have undoubtedly been a factor in the mid-season, but the last 2 weeks have been alarming. The call IL needs to make is whether he thinks Wane can turn it around - if he doesn't, then there's only 1 decision he can make.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Abysmal...I am hoping Shaun Wane when interviewed after this announces he is standing down...'"
We can but hope.
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| Quote Finfin="Finfin"Investigations should be independent.'"
It needs an autopsy not an investigation
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| It's pretty clear Wane has lost the team and the majority of the fans.
Time for him to go.
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| The cat just threw up on the carpet. I had more fun cleaning that up than watching Wigan today.
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| I can save him a job...
The players haven't played well enough & some of them shouldn't even be at the club
The overall attitude and aplication hasn't been good enough
The recruitment hasn't been good enough
The coaching hasn't been good enough
Have I missed anything?
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| Quote Madderzahatter="Madderzahatter"I can save him a job...
The players haven't played well enough & some of them shouldn't even be at the club
The overall attitude and aplication hasn't been good enough
The recruitment hasn't been good enough
The coaching hasn't been good enough
Have I missed anything?'"
Yes, you missed a "P" in application.
I agree with everything you put, just not good enough from the club and something needs to be done from the top to bottom.
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| Those players either do not want to play in this system or do not want to play for Wane. Either way there needs to be a coaching overhaul.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"
I think Lenagan is in a bit of a quandry here. I sense he'll be concerned as anyone but can you sack a coach who's won 5 trophies in 5 years? There would be a lot of external criticism if that decision was made.
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Who on earth from? Everyone knows Wane has been exposed as useless.
What does he care about most? Reaction of others or the good of the club?
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| If he was replaced, it isn't a knee jerk reaction. It's a decision to move in a different direction, because clearly the wrestle and tattle em approach doesn't work. Everyone in the league, and I mean everyone plays more attractive rugby than we do. That's not a fluke, it's by design, Wanes low risk bash and smash style rugby is the root cause. It's not new anymore, it isn't working, thus it's time for new ideas.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"
I think Lenagan is in a bit of a quandry here. I sense he'll be concerned as anyone but can you sack a coach who's won 5 trophies in 5 years? There would be a lot of external criticism if that decision was made.'"
Leicester gave Ranieri his P45 9 months after winning the premier league and with his side in the Champions League quarter final. The key to successful management at the very top is to make the necessary changes before it even starts to go wrong. We have now passed that point. Wane should have gone months ago, and if he hasn't gone by Monday morning, then there'll be a damn sight more criticism.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Who on earth from? Everyone knows Wane has been exposed as useless.
What does he care about most? Reaction of others or the good of the club?'" I don't think "useless" is the right word. As a previous poster said, 5 trophies in 5 years isn't that shabby (most of the others would bite your hand off for that record). But I do think he's now being exposed as out of depth. It only took Nobby a couple of seasons to be outdone by Smith. As much as I loath McDermott & his "big I am" bullying attitude, he's turned round Leeds from the abyss of last year (yes there were extenuating circumstances) & Powell and Radford have been a revelation. I sorry to say that Wane simply hasn't been inovative enough and we've been too relient on the likes of SOL and the (now plainly) vain hope that Tommy would return as good as good as was when he left.
New blood needed at all levels I think.
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