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| Quote stillinthepast="stillinthepast"Nicky, the R/U clubs and the parent body (England R/U ) could gobble up English Super League players any time they wanted to.
As an example the Fijian players who played England at Twickers last week were on £60.00 per day expenses for the duration of their tour to Europe this Autumn.
The England team that day were on £22,000 thousand each and that has been the fee the England players have been on during the 4 match Autumn series and to follow they have the 6 Nations which means another 5 matches. Which means a total of 180,000 thousand per player.'"
I was reading that the top end Union players are now earning £1m a year from their club and international salaries combined plus sponsorship on top. We clearly can't compete.
Regardless Cas still need to be paid well for the guys services. They've clearly got the cash so why they would feel the need to use gutter tactics like this is a mystery!
On a side note with Solomona he said he would never turn out for the English Rugby League side because he's not English. I bet the lad changes his tune on playing for the Union side though ££££££££!
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| If we are still 'in partnership' (or whatever they called it) with Sale that needs to stop yesterday in light of this. It's one thing paying transfer fees to poach our players, at least that means money coming into the sport, but setting a precedent that they don't have to even pay is bloody dangerous! As an aside, I wonder whether we could have at least kept him in SL if the salary cap was higher, even if it still meant him leaving Cas.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Cas fans will probably find a way of blaming us!
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I blame the agent.....
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I was reading that the top end Union players are now earning £1m a year from their club and international salaries combined plus sponsorship on top. We clearly can't compete.
Regardless Cas still need to be paid well for the guys services. They've clearly got the cash so why they would feel the need to use gutter tactics like this is a mystery!
On a side note with Solomona he said he would never turn out for the English Rugby League side because he's not English. I bet the lad changes his tune on playing for the Union side though ££££££££!'"
Re "gutter tactics" it's rumoured that Sale offered Cas £300k. If Cas (stupidly IMO) chose to turn this down then they are in a situation that is partly (admittedly a very small part) of their own making. Owners of RL clubs need to wise up fast, accept the fact that player migration is unstoppable at present and make the best of it. Cas could have done a lot with £300k. Finally, they could have done a Wigan in terms of keeping the door open should he fail at RU - not an entirely unreasonable scenario as we all know.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Re "gutter tactics" it's rumoured that Sale offered Cas £300k. If Cas (stupidly IMO) chose to turn this down then they are in a situation that is partly (admittedly a very small part) of their own making. Owners of RL clubs need to wise up fast, accept the fact that player migration is unstoppable at present and make the best of it. Cas could have done a lot with £300k. Finally, they could have done a Wigan in terms of keeping the door open should he fail at RU - not an entirely unreasonable scenario as we all know.'"
Is it unreasonable to expect a player to see out his contract now? How can they build a trophy winning side if every time they develop a star player, he leaves the following season, whether contracted or not? We regularly criticise the likes of Wakey for showing a lack of ambition and dragging standards down. Cas are showing ambition IMO by fighting to keep their best players rather than taking the easy money. It's different for the likes of us who are able to attract players by virtue of our big name and the likelihood our players will play in finals and win trophies. We also tend to have a Manfredi in reserve to replace a Burgess etc so it doesn't hit us that hard. Cas don't have that luxury.
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| Who owns the ground that they share with Salford?
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| Quote Singing Warrior="Singing Warrior"Who owns the ground that they share with Salford?'"
I believe it is Peel Holdings Koucash wanted to buy the ground but they declined his offer.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Is it unreasonable to expect a player to see out his contract now? How can they build a trophy winning side if every time they develop a star player, he leaves the following season, whether contracted or not? We regularly criticise the likes of Wakey for showing a lack of ambition and dragging standards down. Cas are showing ambition IMO by fighting to keep their best players rather than taking the easy money. It's different for the likes of us who are able to attract players by virtue of our big name and the likelihood our players will play in finals and win trophies. We also tend to have a Manfredi in reserve to replace a Burgess etc so it doesn't hit us that hard. Cas don't have that luxury.'"
Yes. A contract is nothing more than a gentlemans' agreement and isn't worth the paper it's written on.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Is it unreasonable to expect a player to see out his contract now? How can they build a trophy winning side if every time they develop a star player, he leaves the following season, whether contracted or not? We regularly criticise the likes of Wakey for showing a lack of ambition and dragging standards down. Cas are showing ambition IMO by fighting to keep their best players rather than taking the easy money. It's different for the likes of us who are able to attract players by virtue of our big name and the likelihood our players will play in finals and win trophies. We also tend to have a Manfredi in reserve to replace a Burgess etc so it doesn't hit us that hard. Cas don't have that luxury.'"
Not much point fighting a fight you can't win Grimmy.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Re "gutter tactics" it's rumoured that Sale offered Cas £300k. If Cas (stupidly IMO) chose to turn this down then they are in a situation that is partly (admittedly a very small part) of their own making. Owners of RL clubs need to wise up fast, accept the fact that player migration is unstoppable at present and make the best of it. Cas could have done a lot with £300k. Finally, they could have done a Wigan in terms of keeping the door open should he fail at RU - not an entirely unreasonable scenario as we all know.'"
So Cas are partially to blame as they turned down an offer?? Are you for real? You are basically saying any offer should be accepted before this happens. Solomona is to blame for this, In no way is it Cas. Not even partially.
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"So Cas are partially to blame as they turned down an offer?? Are you for real? You are basically saying any offer should be accepted before this happens. Solomona is to blame for this, In no way is it Cas. Not even partially.'"
Where did I say "any offer should be accepted"? IMO £300k for Solomona - or any player who wants to leave any club - is a very good offer when you consider the consequences of rejecting that offer. You're now left with no player and no money so please tell me how Solomona is to blame for the fact that Cas are now, in effect, £300k poorer?
Don't get me wrong here. Solomona deserves all the criticism in the world for his actions if he has indeed walked out, but that's no defence for Cas acting like King Canute. Accept the situation as it exists between RL & RU and take the money or stand on you principles. Either choice is Cas's to make and they appear to have chosen the latter. Unless you're claiming Solomona made that decision too?
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| £300k for an import? Cas should have taken the money and ran. After the season he's just had it was quite clear that he was never going to stay with them for too long. Reminds me of when Tuigamala went back to Union from us, we were never going to have the funds to keep him. Imports don't bother me so much, more so when it's young lads through our development and have been lured away (Sam, Joe Burgess, Charnley, rumours on Williams.....etc).
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