Not really a subject you will get intelligent debate on though is it? You have attended a game with a pre-determined view based on prejudice and bias and attempted to find as much evidence as possible in a vain effort to prove your theory then posted it on the oppositions forum to see how many people you can wind up and goad into a response. Commonly known as trolling.

I think I will watch the game back on Wigan TV and record every time a see a Wakefield player speak to the referee in a manner which does not befit their god like status then post it on the Wakefield board, on second thoughts maybe I won't as I'm an adult.

Had you posted something like 'over recent seasons I think there has been a significant increase in players complaining and running over to officials when a decision goes against them which I believe needs to be stopped before we end up in a situation similar to football where the officials are shown no respect' then I think you would have got some intelligent debate and a lot of people agreeing with you.

If you care to watch every team as closely as you have chosen to watch Sam then I'm sure you would notice this across the board with all teams having players who in my opinion cross the line of what should be acceptable.

I hope this reply was of the quality you expected even though your pathetic post didn't warrant it.

This..... Sam annoys me a bit, but its up to the refs to stop it..... But then, Sam is only copying players like Sinfield and Briers... At the end of the day, down to the refs....

Tomkins certainly influenced the ref, after all he did send three Wigan players from the field. That said, you did still manage to lose it, maybe that should have been your focus rather than Tomkins gamesmanship, which goes on in every team.

Come on, admit it ... you don't believe in viruses or injury crises, and deep down you just KNOW that Wakey are 62 points better than Wigan, damn it! And sod that bloody referee for not sending off enough Wigan players to enable you to prove it.

PS: Anyone who thinks that Matty Smith 'stalks the pitch' or influences any aspect of any game, let alone referees, knows absolute zilch about rugby league.

When you do watch it back will you do me a favour?
Count how many times Wakey players threw themselves back on The floor at the PTB and waving their arms up to the ref trying to influence the referee into giving them a penalty.
All teams do it occasionally but got the feeling Friday that Wakey were playing in roller skates at the ptb.

He believes that they were unlucky not to win a game against us with 12 men for almost 65 minutes and missing

Bateaman, Clubb, Moose, Crosby, Tomkins, Sarge, Gelling, Micky Mac and Faz and technically Burke given Frank is arriving tomorrow.

I bet he believes the gap is closing for them and the top sides. If it was reversed and them missing 9 players got 2 sin bins a sending off we would have put well over 60 points on them. He is just sulking that a poor Wigan side proved that the win they got this season was down to illness. With the 2 centres and most of the starting pack missing we beat them and we were stronger than them in the last 20 minutes when they should have been. Really poor ro be over 1 converted try ahead with 10 minutes to go and lose the game. Seems Sam Tomkins on one leg is fitter than Wakey players on 2.

That result put the 64-0 in real perspective it was down to the bug that most had that were playing in that game.

There's nothing like a bit of intelligent debate.

Wakey had 9 first team players missing aswel. The players you had on the pitch would still have cost double of who wakey had on the pitch. No we didn't have anyone sent off but we lost a player due to a bad head shot. And if all the players had a bug last game why didn't he put the young lads in like he did this game because you had real injury's.

He did!! In fact they were younger than the ones who played on Friday. One of them is now in Australia on the U18's tour.

Did 9 first team players or squad players.

Ok 8 first team scruton, simon, kirmond, A tupou, england, anderson, johnstone and gibson all would have been in the 17 if fit

I'm shure I read 2 made there debuts on friday so why not the first game is it because wane thought the players he put out were well enough to beat a wakefield side

Anderson,Scruton,England,Topou,Kirmond,Simon,Molloy, Johnstone and Gibson and TECHNICALLY Annakin that's the poor sod that couldn't come back after that nice bit of thuggery from your captain, I think you been out trumped here squire.
Anybody whether they deserve to win or not should count themselves lucky when they score the winning points with the last score of the match, but with your logic I doubt if you'll see it that way

What part of he did do you not understand? Higginson and Wells played at Wakefield. Wells is now in Australia on the U18's tour. Gregson played at Wakefield. Shorrocks at that point had been out injured since last September and only made his return about 1 month ago.

He did exactly the same to Lockers too - good to see in my book. Gamesmanship/playing the referee is certainly a facet of Lockers' game he's missing.