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| He's restored my faith at the back end of this season and I'm again convinced he's the man for us. We need to grow and evolve and to do that he needs to make some tough calls but if he can do that I genuinely believe we can have a hugely successful period.
With players like Sam Tomkins, Farrell, McIlorum, Williams, Bateman etc in the side we're going to continue to be there or thereabouts.
Looking at what we need to improve id say Gildart developing in to a top Centre will be huge for us and we could do with Ryan Sutton really kicking on to become the prop that he's capable of. We're covered on the wings, in the halves and at back row for a number of years.
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| I think there's a difference between expecting to win everything and expecting to win some trophies. In three of his four seasons Wane had failed to win either major trophy, and we have been knocked out of the challenge cup by Cas and Hull KR in that time. I know it won't happen but I'd like to see us try someone new. Darryl Powell would be ideal
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"He's restored my faith at the back end of this season and I'm again convinced he's the man for us. We need to grow and evolve and to do that he needs to make some tough calls but if he can do that I genuinely believe we can have a hugely successful period.
With players like Sam Tomkins, Farrell, McIlorum, Williams, Bateman etc in the side we're going to continue to be there or thereabouts.
Looking at what we need to improve id say Gildart developing in to a top Centre will be huge for us and we could do with Ryan Sutton really kicking on to become the prop that he's capable of. We're covered on the wings, in the halves and at back row for a number of years.'"
We need strengthening in the three quarters for next year. Burgess has gone and I believe Sarginson deal with Bath is done. If Charnley does go to Union then we will be pretty low in strength and cover. Perhaps our biggest requirement is a reliable goal kicker.
Sam coming back is fantastic but Joel and MM need to improve vastly next season on this for me as they will be the senior players as SOL looks unfortunately like his best days are behind him.
I'm not being negative but hopefully IL is looking for further signings before the new season.
I'm more than happy with SW and I don't think there is anyone better than him in bringing top class youngsters through the system and with a touch of luck a trophy or two will come our way.
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| Quote wiganstripleL="wiganstripleL"No one can question he is loyal but the biggest disappointment for me this season and not just last night has been the quality of out attack.just think we lack that killer instinct at time. I think if we are to sign anyone else then it needs be an attacking minded assissant coach.'"
Don't want to sound like a broken record but for me the majority of this falls at the feet of Smith again. A scrum half should be attacking the line and creating things but he is too predictable and slow near the opposition line but the return of Sam T will increase the intensity in that area tenfold.
On the original subject. Waney is creating a dynasty here and needs to stay. He is blooding a very good young local side and the future looks excellent. I see a mini domination on the cards for us in the near future.
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| Without doubt he needs to stay, no question.
Next year is career defining however for him. We need a major trophy, and we need to come out of this transitional phase we seem to have fallen into.
We have everything in place to create a generationally dominant team, like Leeds have, and that needs to become a reality next year.
If we don't come away with either the Cup or SL title should and I think will go.
I know it's early but I am genuinely already very excited about 2016 and he has to deliver.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I think there's a difference between expecting to win everything and expecting to win some trophies. In three of his four seasons Wane had failed to win either major trophy, and we have been knocked out of the challenge cup by Cas and Hull KR in that time. I know it won't happen but I'd like to see us try someone new. Darryl Powell would be ideal'"
Do you honestly think that Powell is a better coach. Based on what?
Shaun Wane beats Powell on any criterion you care to name (except as a player).
Powell is doing a similar job at Cas to Stuart Raper. Maybe we should learn from history. Because I don't think one Challenge Cup success, which is what Raper achieved, in three seasons is what you'd be looking for from someone who is expected to improve on Shaun Wanes record.
There is nothing that Powell has done that would lead you to expect better than Shaun Wanes achievements.
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| Pretty sure Raper was here for 2 years and we managed 1 CC and a GF loss (plus another at the end of the season he left).
However I fully agree with jonh.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Do you honestly think that Powell is a better coach. Based on what?
Shaun Wane beats Powell on any criterion you care to name (except as a player).
Powell is doing a similar job at Cas to Stuart Raper. Maybe we should learn from history. Because I don't think one Challenge Cup success, which is what Raper achieved, in three seasons is what you'd be looking for from someone who is expected to improve on Shaun Wanes record.
There is nothing that Powell has done that would lead you to expect better than Shaun Wanes achievements.'"
Powell's teams regularly play far better than the sum of their parts, look at the squad Cas have had the last two years and tell me they should be getting to a cup final or finishing at the top end of the table. If Powell had our resources at his disposal he could do great things IMO
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Powell's teams regularly play far better than the sum of their parts, look at the squad Cas have had the last two years and tell me they should be getting to a cup final or finishing at the top end of the table. If Powell had our resources at his disposal he could do great things IMO'"
I disagree. Holding a ridiculous opinion like that is easy because it'll never be tested. I can't prove you wrong because Powell will never get a top job. Ask yourself why?
He had the chance to do at Leeds what Waney has done here. And he wasn't up to it.
This Wigan team that Wane is building will be the dominant force in Rugby League over the next five years.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I think there's a difference between expecting to win everything and expecting to win some trophies. In three of his four seasons Wane had failed to win either major trophy, and we have been knocked out of the challenge cup by Cas and Hull KR in that time. I know it won't happen but I'd like to see us try someone new. Darryl Powell would be ideal'"
We got knocked out of the cup by two teams having a hot season... We were their cup final.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"I disagree. Holding a ridiculous opinion like that is easy because it'll never be tested. I can't prove you wrong because Powell will never get a top job. Ask yourself why?
He had the chance to do at Leeds what Waney has done here. And he wasn't up to it.
This Wigan team that Wane is building will be the dominant force in Rugby League over the next five years.'"
I wouldn't be too sure about Powell never getting a top job but we shall see. Judging him by the standards he set in 2001 is beyond harsh, he had only just stopped playing! I hope you're right about us being the dominant force but I'd be more convinced if we were winning these finals and not getting knocked out of the cup by lesser sides. Leeds have a bloody good squad with some quality young lads coming through who are already building up vital experience of winning finals. I'm not confident we can top them with Smith, McIlorum and Wane in key positions, particularly once Lockers calls it a day
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"We got knocked out of the cup by two teams having a hot season... We were their cup final.'"
Neither looked too hot against Leeds in their actual cup final!
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