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| Walmsley and Williams for me
Culbertson is a class act but if i had to pick one between him and Walmsley for Wigan, i would pick Walmlsey every single day of the week
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| How Roby hasn't been nominated I will never know. I think people have become desensitised to his contribution.
It's a close one for MOS, but I'd say Williams has burst onto the scene this year and has a massive future if he keeps his head on straight.
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| Quote Smurf="Smurf"How Roby hasn't been nominated I will never know. I think people have become desensitised to his contribution.
It's a close one for MOS, but I'd say Williams has burst onto the scene this year and has a massive future if he keeps his head on straight.'"
I agree with this. Hence the hysteria around whoever is the latest Sky/Media obsession. We don't seem to support our best players as the Aussies do. How Roby got overlooked in favour of Clark last year is a case in point. What's happened to him this year?
Meanwhile Roby gets overlooked again whilst the latest obsession gets picked.
Picking the full back from the top team is like picking a football goalie in this instance. I mean Hardakers apologists always argue that his better defence is more important than Sams far greater attacking threat. It's a bit like Wiggys laughable assertion that Wellens was better than Billy Slater.
Hardaker is hardly fit to be ranked with the likes of Tomkins, Farrell, Graham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Lyon etc. actually my biggest surprise is that they haven't contrived to give it to Sinfield!
My hope is that he gets picked over Sam against NZ and gets found out. Then the media can move on to their next obsession.
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| Stats (apart from making mountains if tackles) would say Roby isn't as effective as once was. He's not scoring as many try's, making as many metres or as many breaks but he receives an awful lot of hype from the sky team.
Top player, always has been but he's rightfully not been nominated ahead of the three players selected because they've all had better seasons IMO.
Roby shall take over Sinfield's crown as Eddie and Stevo's head boy once he's retired to Union.
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| It may just be me, but I don't think Roby has looked anything like as threating as previous years. Sure, he's a tackling machine, with crisp distribution, but he's not the most creative DH, and as his workload has increased he's become less dangerous with the ball. He's still a superb player, and I think the Fages signing may see Roby become more of an attacking threat again.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"I agree with this. Hence the hysteria around whoever is the latest Sky/Media obsession. We don't seem to support our best players as the Aussies do. How Roby got overlooked in favour of Clark last year is a case in point. What's happened to him this year?
Meanwhile Roby gets overlooked again whilst the latest obsession gets picked.
Picking the full back from the top team is like picking a football goalie in this instance. I mean Hardakers apologists always argue that his better defence is more important than Sams far greater attacking threat. It's a bit like Wiggys laughable assertion that Wellens was better than Billy Slater.
Hardaker is hardly fit to be ranked with the likes of Tomkins, Farrell, Graham, Peacock, Sculthorpe, Lyon etc. actually my biggest surprise is that they haven't contrived to give it to Sinfield!
My hope is that he gets picked over Sam against NZ and gets found out. Then the media can move on to their next obsession.'"
You should tell the other SL players they got it wrong.
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| I'm another who doesn't rate Hardaker as highly as others. He is a very good player, but don't rate him as the best player in the league (not yet anyway, he's still quite young). Sorry but I don't see how 10 tries and 6 assists from FULL BACK make him a cadidate for MOS?
Yes he is fantastic defensively, but I'd have though he would have to do more than that in attack to win MOS. He has no kicking game and a not amazing passing game. His running game and defense is very good though.
I think the other two deserve it more, but probably Walmsley should win it. He has made a ridiculous number of metres this year.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"You should tell the other SL players they got it wrong.'"
Just like they got it wrong last year mate. Or do you disagree?
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| Quote JWarriors="JWarriors"I'm another who doesn't rate Hardaker as highly as others. He is a very good player, but don't rate him as the best player in the league (not yet anyway, he's still quite young). Sorry but I don't see how 10 tries and 6 assists from FULL BACK make him a cadidate for MOS?
Yes he is fantastic defensively, but I'd have though he would have to do more than that in attack to win MOS. He has no kicking game and a not amazing passing game. His running game and defense is very good though.
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Hardaker's passing game is the weakest area of his game, but I don't buy into the argument that he's not that good in attack. In fact, he's one of the best players in broken field, and kick returners in the competition.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Hardaker's passing game is the weakest area of his game, but I don't buy into the argument that he's not that good in attack. In fact, he's one of the best players in broken field runners, and kick returners in the competition.'"
No one on here is denying that Hardaker isn't effective and that he hasn't had a good season. But I think the MoS award should go to the best player in the competition.
Now, as a Wigan fan I'm really not that bothered that Roby is overlooked again. But it beggars belief that the players could think Clark was better than him last season and that he isn't even shortlisted this.
Just to prove my even handedness, I'll give you another example when the MoS made no sense. When Pat Richards won it, Lockers and Sam had demonstrably better seasons, Pat kicked the goals and finished the tries, but to suggest he was the best player was nonsense.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Just like they got it wrong last year mate. Or do you disagree?'"
I don't really have a problem with Clark winning last year, he had a great season. I'd have had no problem with any of the other 3 nominees winning it either. Actually, I think I only really can remember disagreeing with Farrell winning it in 2004, and Hodgson winning it in 2009.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"No one on here is denying that Hardaker isn't effective and that he hasn't had a good season. But I think the MoS award should go to the best player in the competition.
Now, as a Wigan fan I'm really not that bothered that Roby is overlooked again. But it beggars belief that the players could think Clark was better than him last season and that he isn't even shortlisted this.
Just to prove my even handedness, I'll give you another example when the MoS made no sense. When Pat Richards won it, Lockers and Sam had demonstrably better seasons, Pat kicked the goals and finished the tries, but to suggest he was the best player was nonsense.'"
Who's to say for sure who the best player in the competition is over the course of a season? Clearly some people do think Hardaker has been the best player in SL, but then again, just as many probably don't. These things are subjective.
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