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| We need two props at least and clear out some of the dross namely Mossop,Patrick,Tierney and Lloyd. I could list more and actually reduced my initial thoughts by more than half.
At the start of this season I anticipated some ups and downs but what I didn't expect was the total mediocrity of the performances and the team in general. Another season like this and there is only one way that season tickets sales will go and it won't be an increase.
I can't recall a season in recent memory where I'm actually losing interest so fast and know that when we play anyone with any sort of intent we fail miserably. Actually I do recall when this was it was in Noble's last season.
The atmosphere at home is rank and there is nothing going to happen in the next few weeks that will change this. Second place is possible but expect to finish no higher than 4th therefore, no play off game at home to look forward to.
Tomkins next year will be welcome relief but will absolutely be nowhere near enough to resolve the malaise that currently surrounds the club. If IL can't see this then he isn't the businessman that he leads us to believe he is.
If the squad isn't enhanced and the dross ditched I will seriously consider not renewing my season ticket next year and just go to the Saints, Leeds and Wire games.
What I don't understand is why make a statement of no change when it's patently obvious that the current squad lacks size and sufficient skills to deliver quality performances on a consistent basis.
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| Quote post="post"We need to get rid of Tautai and sign a decent prop, I'd even take a pint on Anthony England from the Dire.'"
Their fans think he's dross so he probably wouldn't be an improvement. It seems like all clubs are saying they need props at the moment but others sides probably are looking.
Another season of being bullied to look forward to.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Well I can't see him signing a new deal here so he'll be available at some point. If Wigan aren't going to give him a shot they may as well go and swap him for a player they will find a use for (such as a prop or a back up wing/centre).'"
I just don't get it with Rocky. He's an England international youngster with bags of pace and potential. He plays in a position that we've been been struggling with and plays with the type of flair we so desperately need. It should be a case of right guy coming along at the right time.
If he leaves without getting a proper shot at the 6 jersey then we might as well shut down our academy. They don't come much more talented than Rocky, why develop him through all the youth teams and then not give him a proper chance at the final hurdle?
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"We need two props at least and clear out some of the dross namely Mossop,Patrick,Tierney and Lloyd. I could list more and actually reduced my initial thoughts by more than half.
At the start of this season I anticipated some ups and downs but what I didn't expect was the total mediocrity of the performances and the team in general. Another season like this and there is only one way that season tickets sales will go and it won't be an increase.
I can't recall a season in recent memory where I'm actually losing interest so fast and know that when we play anyone with any sort of intent we fail miserably. Actually I do recall when this was it was in Noble's last season.
The atmosphere at home is rank and there is nothing going to happen in the next few weeks that will change this. Second place is possible but expect to finish no higher than 4th therefore, no play off game at home to look forward to.
Tomkins next year will be welcome relief but will absolutely be nowhere near enough to resolve the malaise that currently surrounds the club. If IL can't see this then he isn't the businessman that he leads us to believe he is.
If the squad isn't enhanced and the dross ditched I will seriously consider not renewing my season ticket next year and just go to the Saints, Leeds and Wire games.
What I don't understand is why make a statement of no change when it's patently obvious that the current squad lacks size and sufficient skills to deliver quality performances on a consistent basis.'"
You've summed up my feelings perfectly.
I just don't understand how fundamental flaws in our squad are just not being fixed or sorted out.
Reading identical articles from Wane but 12 months apart and knowing he's not learnt from the mistakes of this year feels like I'm stuck in groundhog day.
Yet the pro Wane brigade skips along offering him every excuse possible.
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| I've never seen a softer, more one-dimensional Wigan team... Personally think we need new ideas and signing Tomkins is just PR and papering over the cracks. If anything, I think Sam moving to NZ has put his own development back a couple of years...
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| I usually lean towards trusting in the academy but this season I really think we have been shy of a couple of good props, at least one.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"You've summed up my feelings perfectly.
I just don't understand how fundamental flaws in our squad are just not being fixed or sorted out.
Reading identical articles from Wane but 12 months apart and knowing he's not learnt from the mistakes of this year feels like I'm stuck in groundhog day.
Yet the pro Wane brigade skips along offering him every excuse possible.'"
At last people with a little sense, not be long before the wane lovers come out with But he won the double haha
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"I just don't get it with Rocky. He's an England international youngster with bags of pace and potential. He plays in a position that we've been been struggling with and plays with the type of flair we so desperately need. It should be a case of right guy coming along at the right time.
If he leaves without getting a proper shot at the 6 jersey then we might as well shut down our academy. They don't come much more talented than Rocky, why develop him through all the youth teams and then not give him a proper chance at the final hurdle?'"
De ja vue ala Sam Tomkins he had the talent but could not get a game in the 1st team until Finch got injured and we all know were he went onwards and upwards .Same thing is happening with Hampshire IMO don't think Wayne thinks he is big enough hope to god he does not go elsewhere.
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| Quote jaws1="jaws1"De ja vue ala Sam Tomkins he had the talent but could not get a game in the 1st team until Finch got injured and we all know were he went onwards and upwards .Same thing is happening with Hampshire IMO don't think Wayne thinks he is big enough hope to god he does not go elsewhere.'"
It was Tim Smith that got injured but same principle stands.
The issue Hampshire has that Tomkins didn't is there's an older and bigger option in between the first choice halves in the shape of Sam Powell. That means Hampshire isn't even first back up so he's relying on two injuries/suspensions to get a game in his actual position. The only time he was selected there this year was against Huddersfield in the 2nd week of the season when Williams was injured and Smith suspended and even then it was only 5 minutes before kick off that he got the call.
That proves what he's going to need to get a chance which is pretty laughable.
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| I know the road i would be going down. It seems very likely that Sarge will be leaving, Thornley has already gone. We NEED a centre. This might come as a crazy shout but i would take Atkins from Wire on a free transfer. I know he has had a shocker this season but so has most of the Wire team. I wouldn't be worried about that. Some different coaching might get him back to his best. A couple of years ago he was right up there with Watkins for me. In the forwards i would drop Lockers in at interchange prop, move Bateman to LF with Burke covering LF, Drop Tautai into his position, back up second row then make one big(ish) signing. For me that would be Rulon Nutira, OOC at the Dragons, 6ft 5" monster, splash the cash and that would see me happy. We have Tierney to cover FB and Wing and the obvious one is to get Hampshire and Williams in the halves and that would deffo do for me.
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| What an exciting time to be a Wigan supporter.
We have always maintained that our youth system is the best there is and that we produce too many players to fit them all in the first team, well now is the chance to put that right.
The current squad can't be all that bad as we are second in the league and have beaten every other team in the competition and with the addition of Sam Tomkins then it can only strengthen us.
Our forwards next season will be older, wiser and hungrier than this year and will be pushed by academy products coming through.
Lenagan , Radlinski and Wane should be applauded for what they are doing not criticized as most on here are doing.
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| Quote jaws1="jaws1"De ja vue ala Sam Tomkins he had the talent but could not get a game in the 1st team until Finch got injured and we all know were he went onwards and upwards .Same thing is happening with Hampshire IMO don't think Wayne thinks he is big enough hope to god he does not go elsewhere.'"
Thats the biggest urban wigan myth going
Sam played plenty of games during that season. Possibly more that Tim Smith.
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