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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"The difference between someone who knows what he is talking about, and someone who thinks he knowsbwhat je is talkig about in one single post.'"
Not quite true. I'm not arguing with jonh but I'm am agreeing with DaveO in that, peaking notwithstanding, our aim would have been to win every game we played. I don't care what we were doing in training other than it clearly worked, but even jonh would agree the players have always tried to win on every occasion and haven't taken their foot off the gas. Rather, their physical and maybe mental preparation for certain games wasn't - and indeed couldn't according to jonh - be maintained every week.
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| I do not think anyone claims it was a plan to lose any games, and that the players did not give 100% every week. Simply their 100% was proportionate to their level of perpetration.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I do not think anyone claims it was a plan to lose any games, and that the players did not give 100% every week. Simply their 100% was proportionate to their level of perpetration.'"
Sorry jonh but there is plenty evidence on here that people actually believe the opposite.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Not quite true. I'm not arguing with jonh but I'm am agreeing with DaveO in that, peaking notwithstanding, our aim would have been to win every game we played. I don't care what we were doing in training other than it clearly worked, but even jonh would agree the players have always tried to win on every occasion and haven't taken their foot off the gas. Rather, their physical and maybe mental preparation for certain games wasn't - and indeed couldn't according to jonh - be maintained every week.'"
You cant go balls out every week in practice and then in comp every athlete in the world has periods of peaking and de-loading within a training block. Its just a relativley new thing for us fans to get our heads around.
Usain Bolt doesnt go the track every day and then sprint as fast as he can for an hour. He sets to peak for the major events, which is why he may get beat in the circuit races, but not on the big stage.
Fans just need to get there heads around periods of under performing as the players cycle through peaks and ramping phases. Which as a fan is easier said than done.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"We didn't stop trying. As someone else said previously it's not a computer game were set yourself to you play at 70%.
Anyone who has played a team game knows, if you go out half cocked you get mullered. We didn't go out half cocked.
We lost some games due to poor form, simple enough to my mind.
What has been fantastic is despite that, we turned it around and had a fantastic play off series and GF.'"
We did stop tryin thats why Sam is off to the NRL because Wigan didnt need to try against Salford and Widnes etc etc, Micky Mac was kept ticking over while Logan was given a chance in the team. Get the poor form out of your head we rested key players so they could perform in the business end of the season. I really do wonder if that brain cell in your head is lonely
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"You cant go balls out every week in practice and then in comp every athlete in the world has periods of peaking and de-loading within a training block. Its just a relativley new thing for us fans to get our heads around.
Usain Bolt doesnt go the track every day and then sprint as fast as he can for an hour. He sets to peak for the major events, which is why he may get beat in the circuit races, but not on the big stage.
Fans just need to get there heads around periods of under performing as the players cycle through peaks and ramping phases. Which as a fan is easier said than done.'"
I agree as the evidence is clear. However, Bolt doesn't plan to finish second, it is just a result of his condition. There are some on here who would appear to believe that Bolt deliberately loses lesser races to win the big ones, that is my point.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"I agree as the evidence is clear. However, Bolt doesn't plan to finish second, it is just a result of his condition. There are some on here who would appear to believe that Bolt deliberately loses lesser races to win the big ones, that is my point.'"
The least they could do though is admit they don t know what they are talking about though dont you think? But i imagine the best bet would be that they will spin it via a reply of war and peace proportions so we get bored by the third chapter.
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| Quote jonh="jonh" Dave, let me explain something called peaking to you. Something that Wane as a coach has been criticised for not doing with his team in the past and something both he and his coaching team deserve massive credit for this year as in the second half we were running round like it was the first game if the season and Wire were playing with lead in their boots. Snip '"
Excellent post.. But you may as well go bang your head against a wall if you expect all to get a grasp of it...

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| Dave read this book it explains how peaking is achieved
" Bowerman and the Men of Oregon: The Story of Oregon's Legendary Coach and Nike's Cofounder"
this is the man who created the Oregon team training methods - the team who train Mo Farah. Its a good read I recommend it for everyone, one of those you can pick up and read bits at lunchtime or dare I say it - a good toilet read lol
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Dave, let me explain something called peaking to you...'"
Exactly.
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| The plan is never to lose games, but the plan is to go into some games of the year not physically at the height if your powers but yet to still win.
Sometimes that is achievable sometimes it is not. For us it was not but the plan still came together perfectly in the long run.
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| We went 5 points clear in the league and simply had to pull back on that front to sustain the charge for a double. Half cooked sides, jammed with youth and injuries meant we had to pull back.
When you look at the season as a whole it does point towards one thing and that's Wigan being the best team in 2013.
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