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| 1. S Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding / Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. S Powell / Green
7. Smith
8. Flower
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Tuson
14. Taylor
15. Crosby / A Powell
16. Burke
17. L Tomkins / S Powell
I don't think wholesale changes need to be made. In a team that seems to be lacking attacking cohesion switching everything around isn't necessarily going to be a miracle cure. If anything a smarter style of play would be more effective than chopping and changing.
The biggest worry I have is Green's form. There were some brief glimpses of good things against Leeds with his good short pass to put Thornley through a gap and his break down field. Unfortunately there was still a lot that was wrong, particularly his woeful pass that was intercepted by BJB.
If Green was replaced I'd worry about Hampshire a) because he seems less effective on the left than the right, and b) because Westerman's try for Hull showed just how much he struggles in defence against bigger players. Westerman isn't exactly a powerhouse but Hampshire was powerless to stop him.
Powell has showed some good signs and has already played against some good teams. His kicking game has looked very dangerous and if there's one thing that the cup final showed it's that a good kicking game can be a game winner as long as the defence is solid. Powell might not be likely to put players through gaps like Green did when in form but he does have a smart kicking game that might take some pressure off Matty Smith, who Huddersfield will no doubt be watching like a hawk on the last tackle.
If Green does start then I'd at least hope that Powell is on the bench. It would be very harsh on Logan Tomkins who has done well at times but he really does seem to be more effective when starting games. I've got this nagging feeling that Green is going the same way as Finch at the end of last year and might be more likely to lose us a game than win us one.
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| Some weird as flunk teams been suggested, I thought I was leftfield! I'd go:
FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding (17 Thornley if he's injured)
LC 22 Gelling
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 26 Crosby
H 9 McIlorum
P 10 Mossop
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Farrell
LF 15 Flower
S 16 Tuson
S 21 Taylor
S 32 Hampshire
S 38 A.Powell
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| Not really weird, we need some spark in attack and we have the best player in super league stood around at the back waiting for things to happen in front of him. Move Sam forward and give him licence to create havoc. We've tried almost everything else. Tell Sam to go strutt his stuff.
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| I know Sam is a fb but could we not put him 6 for a the game he isn't doing much at the back so put him in the mix were he has more ball.
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| If we had a more experienced 9 than Logan then I think McIlorum at 13 in the present situation is a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't think Logan would be up to 80 minutes vs Huddersfield.
But I do think McIlorum in at 13 is something which would be good as his defence is strong, and his passing game would be the closest to Lockers' without sacrificing the strong defence.
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| Quote Arthur Warrior="Arthur Warrior"Not really weird, we need some spark in attack and we have the best player in super league stood around at the back waiting for things to happen in front of him. Move Sam forward and give him licence to create havoc. We've tried almost everything else. Tell Sam to go strutt his stuff.'"
Not meaning to have a go, like I said I've posted some very experiment suggested lineups on these threads. I'm not convinced of the wisdom of sticking our smallest player in the position where you have to do the most tackling though, presumably for 80 minutes as well. On top of that he would be expected to find the energy to be our gamebreaker in attack. Then the forwards (wbo are already generally struggling for hard yards against top teams) would have more work to do metreswise. If I was Paul Anderson I'd tell the forwards to run all over Tomkins at every opportunity. Then on 5th get Brough boot it as high as he can then everyone clatter Hampshire when it comes down
I'd atick with Flower and tell the whole pack they're gonna need to set up a better platform. If the forwards can get us so momentum and field position Sam won't look so impotent. Then bring Rocky on and tell him and Sam to swap between 6 and 1 as they see fit, keep Huddersfield guessing, and someone get on A.Powell's shoulder ready for the offload! I think Gelling would be handy to have in this one too. Tell him to take some weight off the forwards shoulders like usual but keep a real tight grip on that ball when he does!
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| I can't see any major surprises (Grimmy I've nicked your post to save typing!)
FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 22 Thornley
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 26 Crosby
H 9 McIlorum
P 10 Mossop
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Farrell
LF 15 Flower
S 16 Tuson
S 21 Taylor
S 32 Tomkins
S 38 A.Powell
Personally I would change Green for Powell/Hampshire, and have the other one on the bench in place of Tomkins.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"I can't see any major surprises (Grimmy I've nicked your post to save typing!)
FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding
LC 22 Thornley
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 26 Crosby
H 9 McIlorum
P 10 Mossop
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Farrell
LF 15 Flower
S 16 Tuson
S 21 Taylor
S 32 Tomkins
S 38 A.Powell
Personally I would change Green for Powell/Hampshire, and have the other one on the bench in place of Tomkins.'"
That's the side I expect tbh just not what I'd pick.
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| Quote chip="chip"I know Sam is a fb but could we not put him 6 for a the game he isn't doing much at the back so put him in the mix were he has more ball.'"
He's not a fullback, he's a stand-off playing at full back. The good teams mark him out of the game playing full back so currently we aren't utilising our greatest asset. He needs to be moved back to his natural position and if that means Green being moved to 13 or being dropped then so be it.
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| Hampshire at 1 and Tomkins at 6 would certainly make a statement. I'd be happy with that but we'd have to drop Green rather then moving him to 13. We'd get mullered in the forwards against the best teams if we played Green at 13.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Hampshire at 1 and Tomkins at 6 would certainly make a statement. I'd be happy with that but we'd have to drop Green rather then moving him to 13. We'd get mullered in the forwards against the best teams if we played Green at 13.'"
we could play Green off the bench instead of Logan. When MM comes off, put Smith to 9.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Hampshire at 1 and Tomkins at 6 would certainly make a statement. I'd be happy with that but we'd have to drop Green rather then moving him to 13. We'd get mullered in the forwards against the best teams if we played Green at 13.'"
Play a fullback at stand off and a stand off at fullback? Isn't that just making changes for the sake of making changes? What's wrong with playing a fullback at fullback and a stand off at stand off?
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