Those two semi-final defeats last season are still smarting eh ?

No Wigan fans are going to celebrate Leeds losing early matches in the season, not after the last couple of years. That's why no one is really doing it on here.

But to see so many of you guys stampede onto this board to assure us you aren't bothered is kind of flattering. You clearly value our views, even if you pretend you find them funny.

Pl 19, W 10, D 2, L 7, Pts For 503, Pts Agst 361, Avg Rst (26-19), 58%


5-Apr-96 ….. CHP ….. Lost 26 - 23
26-May-97 ….. CHP ….. Drew 30 - 30
2-Aug-98 ….. CHP ….. Lost 22 - 16
30-May-99 ….. CHP ….. Drew 12 - 12
31-May-00 ….. CHP ….. Won 18 - 20
18-Aug-00 ….. CHP ….. Lost 20 - 16
24-Feb-01 ….. CC ….. Won 12 - 42
29-Jun-01 ….. CHP ….. Lost 28 - 26
18-Aug-01 ….. CHP ….. Won 10 - 17
2-Apr-02 ….. CHP ….. Won 16 - 36
17-Apr-03 ….. CHP ….. Won 14 - 15
22-Aug-03 ….. CHP ….. Lost 28 - 20
7-Mar-04 ….. CHP ….. Won 8 - 34
16-Jul-06 ….. CHP ….. Lost 31 - 30
7-Mar-08 ….. CHP ….. Lost 38 - 20
15-May-09 ….. CHP ….. Won 22 - 24
13-Aug-10 ….. CHP ….. Won 6 - 38
29-Apr-11 ….. CHP ….. Won 6 - 48
2-Mar-12 ….. CHP ….. Won 14 - 36

Leeds' record down t'road on a Sunday L, D, W, L

Thanks to Tvoc for the stats.

Why is a thread about Leeds losing even on the Wigan board anyway?

Why do you think? Because you're a close rival and your progress, or lack of it, is of interest.

Criticism if we talk of the past, criticism if we talk of the present... Can't bloody win can we...

Our lack of progress ?

you need to be more concerned with your own teams inability to beat a team that Leeds smashed all over Old Trafford last October .

No one knows whether your team is making progress or not. You weren't as good on the opening night of the season as Wiggie and Slaphead said you were, and you were obviously crap last weekend. However, you've been crap before and come good when it mattered. Not denying it. Which is why I put forward both possibilities, "your progress, or lack of it" - that you chose to ignore the first part of that quotes says more about your defensive state of mind than any lack of respect on our part.

Pleased you recognised the fact

If you are jetlagged after 11 days in a country, there is something wrong in your preparation.

I don't think anyone seriously believes that Leeds lose games on purpose but it does seem pretty obvious that they put less effort into the regular games than they do into the playoff/cup games and their record against the top sides shows that.

Wigan tore them apart twice last year in the league and were beaten in two semi finals by a side that seemed to actually have a game plan as opposed to the one we played in the league. Wire hammered them twice in 2011, and were by far the better side at Wembley last year but Leeds turned it round in the playoffs in both years.

the thing to remember is win the ones that matter....lol