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| I didn't say they weren't fully committed, I know they were. I was commenting on the game and it was average. Poor handling by Wigan and Leeds hadn't got a move in them.
As for the result. Wigan scored two converted tries.
Leeds scored one converted try and a drop goal, their other points came from the courtesy of Mr Silverwood.
To deny those penalties had no influence on the game or the result is something I don't agree with. Those six points were the difference between Leeds winning and not!
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"I didn't say they weren't fully committed, I know they were. I was commenting on the game and it was average. Poor handling by Wigan and Leeds hadn't got a move in them.
As for the result. Wigan scored two converted tries.
Leeds scored one converted try and a drop goal, their other points came from the courtesy of Mr Silverwood.
To deny those penalties had no influence on the game or the result is something I don't agree with. Those six points were the difference between Leeds winning and not!'"
Sounds like you were watching a different game to most other people, but the important point is that the referee doesn't "give" any points to any team, there are rules and if players breach the rules then the referee judges in the way that the rules dictate, things happen in the heat of the moment and in the speed of the game, but the referees have little leeway to do nothing if an infringement of the rules has occured that affects the play of the game - you could argue that its the players who give away the points.
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| The referees don't give points they penalise players and award penalties.
Mr Silverwood penalised Wigan and Leeds kicked three goals from the penalties, those six points contributed to the final score of 12-13.
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| Leeds were offside for their one and only try. Wigan played the ball within ten metres of the Leeds' line and their players did not stand on the line. How else did they get in Finch's face so quickly?
Still what's new? Ironically Leeds gained 4 points because Wigan were penalised twice for being off-side on their own line.
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| Quote Salty="Salty"Leeds were offside for their one and only try. Wigan played the ball within ten metres of the Leeds' line and their players did not stand on the line. How else did they get in Finch's face so quickly?
Still what's new? Ironically Leeds gained 4 points because Wigan were penalised twice for being off-side on their own line.'"
It's just the way things go sometimes. The same thing happened at the same stage last season at the HJ when both sides had played for 79 minutes within no-one being blown for offside. Then TJ Mr Child decided to intervene and the rest is history.
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| Quote Teessidewire="Teessidewire"It's just the way things go sometimes. The same thing happened at the same stage last season at the HJ when both sides had played for 79 minutes within no-one being blown for offside. Then TJ Mr Child decided to intervene and the rest is history.'"
I remember it well. But Leeds seem to get favourable decisions. McGuire shouldn't be playing in the final. I still think you'll beat them. Hope you do.
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| You can't just remember decisions that go against your your team and think the ref's are against you, what about the 2nd try by Wigan that came from a bad decision from Mr Silverwood. It was never in a million years a knock on by Shaun Lunt. You scored straight from there. So in this logic you only got 6 points.
It was a good game and believe it or not Leeds lost the penalty count for the second game running. On Danny why should he not be playing in the final.
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| Wigan fans are still funny 
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| Quote Salty="Salty"Leeds were offside for their one and only try. Wigan played the ball within ten metres of the Leeds' line and their players did not stand on the line. How else did they get in Finch's face so quickly?
Still what's new? Ironically Leeds gained 4 points because Wigan were penalised twice for being off-side on their own line.'"
Oh give over how many times did Wigan players not stand behind the line when they were defending or did not stand square take the rose tints off 
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| Quote Salty="Salty"How else did they get in Finch's face so quickly?
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Because Finch spent the whole game moving round the pitch with all the pace and agility of an asthmatic tortoise !
He was gash , get over it .
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| The RFL have made some serious errors in recent years with how the game is run. The SL semi gates were awful and the Championship 3 game showpiece attracted 6500 at Wire on Sunday, somewhat less than the 20k at Headingley the last time it was for promotion.
The games a mess and we have clowns running it.
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