Before I embarass myself by responding can somebody confirm that this isn't one of them "fishing" threads.

If you don't know, nobody does...

and at 9pm he will be in the Brocket turning water into wine, unbelievable some of the pro Hock comments on here, fair enough he was pretty awesome in attack but he did make several mistakes and gave away a couple penalties yet he is still treated like a god by some on here

He shouldn't have to instruct them. We can see that Hock tries to offload every time.

Brian McTigue used to tell his backs in his day, "just follow me , you'll get some tries".

Brian McTigue was in a different class to Hock,even though I can see what Hock is trying to do.
The only difference it was very rare that one of Macs short passes to a supporting player failed to pay off. It was either Dave Bolton or Roy Evans who reaped the benifit,Mac knew when to pass and when not to try the impossible.
Fleabag I am surprised that people on here can still talk about Mac,but having seen your photo in your profile I can understand .

Cheers. (Are you a man of the cloth by the way)>

I love watching hock play. I'd put him in above any other 2nd row at Wigan bar none! HH is dependable but hock is unpredictable and that frightens teams. They don't know how to play him. The pens usually come from aggression and that's the backbone of his game. The majority of the time it's controlled but occasionally it's not. I can live with one or two each game for the good he does!

BIG BEAN.. dont you ever give up on HOCK hahahha,, so will half the wigan team and warrrington turning water to wine lol.. you just hate the fact that hes playing so well and people love him..you should really try talking to the guy face to face..instead of blabbering your hate for him behind your little pc..thats the way HOCK plays you wont change him. and like its been said on here,, our players know what he does they should back him up.. but i for one want him in the team and not agaist me... and i think a few more would agree there..so get off the lads back and give it rest.. yout getting boring now

The avatar is indeed me, on a bad day. Man of the cloth ? Well I was an alter boy at St Cuthberts briefly, does that count ?

Hocks just pure entertainment. Good or bad something is going to happen and our games are all the better with the lad playing.

As for last night I thought he had as many poor moments as good ones but it's not dull. Overall he's having a great year and I love watching him play.

where have i shown hate for him in that post? didn't i say he was pretty awesome in attack? he made a few errors yet another poster is saying it's the rest of the teams fault because nobody backs him up, was commenting more about the other comments than Hock

so your saying if your playing and we had played with you or seen you for many years and we know you like to offload.. and you was running down the field.. and we didnt follow you.. it would be your fault not ours, or even just be prepared for the unexpected from you ??? Hmmmmmm ok..

nobody knows what anybody is thinking, if it is a set move then the player who was suppose to receive the ball is at fault, but how is anybody suppose to know when and where Hock is going to offload, if Hock has the ball then isn't it his responsibility to retain possession, offloading the ball to fresh air is nobody's fault than the person who threw it, no matter who the player is, this site is amazing at times, a few years ago you couldn't say a bad word about Lockers, he was untouchable even when her had done wrong, it seems that Hock has now taken over the mantle as the great untouchable, if a player has done wrong then it should be ok to speak of it and btw i hav e no hatred for Hock, i have even had him in my top 3 for a few games this season, my original problem with him was the fact he did what he did and still came away with a shiny new contract, i hope that if the same sort of incident happens again then the offender would be shown the door, imo it will happen again at some point, somebody will be stupid enough and i DON'T mean it will be Hock