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| Quote Robbo="Robbo"Silverwood had a very poor performance, but I don't think it favoured either team massively, I'll agree there was a massive lack of consistency, But regardless of how many times they "got away" with things we can only concentrate on our own game, If we had been standing square then Silverwood wouldn't have given that penalty, regardless of however many times the same thing got missed the other way around.
Lack of composure, bad decision making and giving away ridiculous penalty's cost us that game more than any ref. Warrington we're poor, in particular in the first 20 minute's, we dominated possession failed to score a try and when given a chance to apply the pressure even more we chose to kick for 2.. They then scored from the result of a Wigan error which gifted them field position, A theme which went on through out the match. At ht I though the scoreline flattered Warrington a great deal and I think even the most avid Wigan hating wire fans will admit they won the game tonight without necessarily having been the better team.
God help us when they actually start playing to their potential because they will be unstoppable, I hate to say it but its the sign of a great team when you can play so poorly compared to your usual standards and still come away with the points week in week out.
They where there for the taking last night, but hopefully we can learn a few lessons from tonight.'"
A fair summary of the game. Refs make mistakes in every match and, in the end, Luaki's two offences cost you the points. From the Wire point of view we just hope it won't be too long before we do start 'playing to our potential'. |
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| Quote Robbo="Robbo"Silverwood had a very poor performance, but I don't think it favoured either team massively, I'll agree there was a massive lack of consistency, But regardless of how many times they "got away" with things we can only concentrate on our own game, If we had been standing square then Silverwood wouldn't have given that penalty, regardless of however many times the same thing got missed the other way around.
Lack of composure, bad decision making and giving away ridiculous penalty's cost us that game more than any ref. Warrington we're poor, in particular in the first 20 minute's, we dominated possession failed to score a try and when given a chance to apply the pressure even more we chose to kick for 2.. They then scored from the result of a Wigan error which gifted them field position, A theme which went on through out the match. At ht I though the scoreline flattered Warrington a great deal and I think even the most avid Wigan hating wire fans will admit they won the game tonight without necessarily having been the better team.
God help us when they actually start playing to their potential because they will be unstoppable, I hate to say it but its the sign of a great team when you can play so poorly compared to your usual standards and still come away with the points week in week out.
They where there for the taking last night, but hopefully we can learn a few lessons from tonight.'"
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| Quote pie eater and proud of it="pie eater and proud of it"Briers, well he was clearly offside for his interception try, they dont go to the screen.
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It did appear that Briers was in front of the ref, but the ref was 12 yards back from the PTB, the TJ was 10 yards back. Just checked it on Sky. Perfectly OK
Silverwood had a shocker last night - both teams could argue that he favoured the other.
Great game despite the ref !! A bit of biff, a bit of controversy, a massive vocal crowd - the Greatest Game !!!! |
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| Quote MrF="MrF"It did appear that Briers was in front of the ref, =#FF0000but the ref was 12 yards back from the PTB, the TJ was 10 yards back. Just checked it on Sky. Perfectly OK
Silverwood had a shocker last night - both teams could argue that he favoured the other.
Great game despite the ref !! A bit of biff, a bit of controversy, a massive vocal crowd - the Greatest Game !!!!'"
But that isn't the rule. The players have to be behind the referee. Just imagine if he only took them back 8 yards then according to your way of thinking they would all be offside.
And what about the last penalty kicked by Hodgson. Have a look at where the offence occurred and then have a look at where the ball was actually kicked from.
Wigan should have won that game but were beaten by their own poor indiscipline. And can't blame Wire for cashing in. |
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"But that isn't the rule. The players have to be behind the referee. Just imagine if he only took them back 8 yards then according to your way of thinking they would all be offside.
=#FF0000And what about the last penalty kicked by Hodgson. Have a look at where the offence occurred and then have a look at where the ball was actually kicked from.[/b
Wigan should have won that game but were beaten by their own poor indiscipline. And can't blame Wire for cashing in.'"
Great point, I had forgot about that.
Not to mention he only just got the length, could have been oh so different. |
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"The players have to be behind the referee. '"
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| Quote MrF="MrF"It did appear that Briers was in front of the ref, but the ref was 12 yards back from the PTB, the TJ was 10 yards back. Just checked it on Sky. Perfectly OK'"
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| Quote just_browny="just_browny"Totally incorrect.'"
So if the referee takes the players back 8 yards are they all offside?
=#FF0000Indicating ten metres The Referee should usually position himself ten metres behind and to one side of the point at which the ball is played as a guide to the team not in possession. If tackling is excessively keen or play is unnecessarily rough, the referee may forsake the ten metres position in order to be nearer the players involved in the tackle. |
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"So if the referee takes the players back 8 yards are they all offside?'"
I have no idea what you're babbling on about. The referee indicates the 10m to the players, but he is under no obligation to be standing back the 10m himself. He judges who is on and offside.
Some refs go back 10m exactly, others stand slightly behind for a clearer view.
This is fairly basic stuff, I'm guessing you're not new to RL?
Just while I'm here, what did Bridge do that merited a sending off in the Hudds-Wire game a few weeks back? I'm not sure you ever cleared that up for us. |
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Quote just_browny="just_browny"I have no idea what you're babbling on about. The referee indicates the 10m to the players, but he is under no obligation to be standing back the 10m himself. He judges who is on and offside.
Some refs go back 10m exactly, others stand slightly behind for a clearer view.
This is fairly basic stuff, I'm guessing you're not new to RL?
Just while I'm here, what did Bridge do that merited a sending off in the Hudds-Wire game a few weeks back? I'm not sure you ever cleared that up for us.'"
www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... laytheball
Indicating ten metres The Referee should usually position himself ten metres behind and to one side of the point at which the ball is played as a guide to the team not in possession. If tackling is excessively keen or play is unnecessarily rough, the referee may forsake the ten metres position in order to be nearer the players involved in the tackle.
The referee has indicated the 10 metres. Briers was in front of him, and therefore offside.
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Some refs go back 10m exactly, others stand slightly behind for a clearer view.
This is fairly basic stuff, I'm guessing you're not new to RL?
Just while I'm here, what did Bridge do that merited a sending off in the Hudds-Wire game a few weeks back? I'm not sure you ever cleared that up for us.'"
www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... laytheball
Indicating ten metres The Referee should usually position himself ten metres behind and to one side of the point at which the ball is played as a guide to the team not in possession. If tackling is excessively keen or play is unnecessarily rough, the referee may forsake the ten metres position in order to be nearer the players involved in the tackle.
The referee has indicated the 10 metres. Briers was in front of him, and therefore offside.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_game/official_laws/11_tackle_and_playtheball
Indicating ten metres The Referee should usually position himself ten metres behind and to one side of the point at which the ball is played as a guide to the team not in possession. If tackling is excessively keen or play is unnecessarily rough, the referee may forsake the ten metres position in order to be nearer the players involved in the tackle.
The referee has indicated the 10 metres. Briers was in front of him, and therefore offside.
It's as simple as that.'"
You're really struggling with this one aren't you? It's a good sign that you've looked up the rules but a pity you've missed the key word, 'should'. The ref has discretion and indicates the 10m in whichever way he likes, his standing position doesn't do it. Karl Kirkpatrick used to stand 3m behind the defensive line, it doesn't mean he didn't indicate the 10 though.
The referee is the arbiter, not Eddie Hemmings, as much as you'd love it to be so. Briers was onside. |
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| Quote just_browny="just_browny" Briers was onside.'"
It is funny how everyone but Warrington fans think differently isnt it? Take the rose tinted spectacles off for goodness sake. |
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