And jealous, they have always been over the years.

I didn't realise winning the League Leader's shield was classed as winning the league?

Jeez!

The league season is over, therefore Warrington have won the league. Next up is a playoff format competition, not a league format competition.

They will never win the Grand Final though.

To win the SuperLEAGUE, you have to win the Grand Final. Therefore, they haven't won the league.

The Grand Final isn't a league though is it Its basically like a cup/playoff format.

I'm guessing we will still be chanting next season then, "Have you ever seen the Wire win the league?"

Because technically they have only been leaders of the league!

Last year it wasn't worth winning, and the Challenge Cup was a far greater achievement. This year however it seems to be quite the opposite for these Wire fans.

It's definitely worth winning but whether you like it or not the GF is what determines who the European Super League Champions are.

If we can successfully defend that title in a season in which we have already won the Challenge Cup for the first time in almost a decade, then I'll take that and Wire are welcome to the shield.

If Wire win the GF then they will deserve to celebrate as we did last year. The big prize is still up for grabs (indeed Wigan and Wire are not the only clubs in the play-offs...)

Correct. The league leaders shield is not the aim of the competition. Under the current rules it means nothing.

Trying telling the people with the WA postcode.

The Grand Final is the game that decides the champions of Super League. You may dislike the current format, but coming top of the regular rounds is not the prize.

Every team knows this at the start of the competition.

I really don't understand how some people cannot grasp this simple point. It's not even a debate, it's a fact.

Check out their forum. They are already planning for the World Club Challenge 2012 using South Sydney as an ideal warm up game.