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| Quote pocket*trout="pocket*trout""Prisoner of Mother England" or "Prisoner of Her Majesty", but it probably derives from pomegranate, rhyming slang for "immigrant"'"
please explain to me?
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| Quote nikos="nikos"please explain to me?'"
What's to explain? Seems simple enough. Brits living in Oz are immigrants, and "pomegranate" is a rhyming slang for "immigrant".
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| Quote bikerpie="bikerpie"What's to explain? Seems simple enough. Brits living in Oz are immigrants, and "pomegranate" is a rhyming slang for "immigrant".'"
sorry, still aint getting this one - is it like "i dont like your boat" ie boat race = face? in which case what does the pomegranate stand for?
or do you mean that pomegranate rhymes with immigrant, which Im afraid it doesnt, it may have done if it was pomegrant, not pomegranate
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| Quote nikos="nikos"please explain to me?'"
English people had red cheeks resembling pomegranates, hence Pom. There's also the story about them getting really red in the heat and again compared to pomegranates. Another version of the pomegranate theme is that it's rhyming slang - immigrant = pomegranate
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Its simply because Australia isn't as PC as in this Country I wouldn't be surprised if in that country there are Pakistanis who actually arent offended by that word it depends if it was ever used in a derogatory way to them it could be the same as us saying Pakistani it may be the word they use. Different countries have different "offensive words" for example it is considered very racist to say "oriental" in reference to anyone asian in America like "Oriental Cuisine" which is very common in this country.
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty when that is them? haha
answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 612AAkBeP2
another example of aussies for ya haha.
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Its simply because Australia isn't as PC as in this Country I wouldn't be surprised if in that country there are Pakistanis who actually arent offended by that word it depends if it was ever used in a derogatory way to them it could be the same as us saying Pakistani it may be the word they use. Different countries have different "offensive words" for example it is considered very racist to say "oriental" in reference to anyone asian in America like "Oriental Cuisine" which is very common in this country.
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty when that is them? haha
answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 612AAkBeP2
another example of aussies for ya haha.
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| Quote hula89="hula89"
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty =#000040when that is them? haha
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That's the bit I've never got.
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| Quote WormInHand="WormInHand"I've never understood them calling [ius[/i Poms. Surely [ithey're[/i the exported prisoners?'"
All the prisoners came from England originally
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| Quote ray13="ray13"
And left the non-convicted behind. So the POMs are the [iAussies[/i' ancestors.

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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"i think as most australians have never been out of their country . they really think we like warm beer ,we dont use soap etc etc .when i was there 2006 buses in sydney had a picture of a can of foster in ice and underneath the words pommies worst nightmare . most of them are pricks'"
MOST of the Sheila's aren't.
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| There's absolutely no evidence to back up the "prisoner of mother england" theory whatsoever, or "prisoner of his/her majesty" either.
The 2 or 3 pomegranate theories seem most likely, according to most etymologists.
As for the racism angle on the "Paki" phrase, as well as the "Pom" phrase, it's generally accepted that racism is in the eye of the receiver, so to speak, so if the "Paki" or "Pom" being spoken to (or even just overhearing the reference) finds it offensive, then by definition it IS offensive.
As a simple derivative, it could be argued that "Paki" is short for "Pakistani", in the same way that "Brit" is an accepted shortening of "British". By that simple analogy, you could argue that "Paki" is not an offensive phrase, if used purely as an abbreviation. However as said above, it is not up to the speaker to decide if the phrase is offensive, but down to the listener.
From a British perspective of course, "Paki" was a mainstay phrase of the Bernard Manning / Jim Davidson school of comedy, and as such was clearly used in a derogatory way, and ought to be frowned upon, especially as the "Paki" in question could quite easily be Indian, Bangladeshi, Persian, Turkish or whatever. However different cultures and nationalities clearly have differing backgrounds, cultural references etc, and we can't simply transpose our meanings on to their usage.
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