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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"Quote thepriestman85="inside_man"But both positions are the same? In this instance its just a number on the back.
The only difference will be same putting the ball in at scrums.'"
They maybe the same apart from they play on different sides of the pitch and link up with different players. What's the point in playing Sam at 7 now and then swapping him back to 6 when Eastmond is fit? I don't see Australia swapping Lockyer to 7 when Thurston is unfit do you?
He should have gone with either Deacon or Brough at 7 and let Sam run the show at 6 like Lockyer has done for Aus for almost the past decade.
We need to be building a style of play which brings out the best in Sam. That for me is when he's playing with an organising 7.'"
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Sam has to play at 1.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"I think we needed a fit and on form Eastmond to have half a chance against Australia and NZ.'"
I agree. With a halfback partnership of Eastmond and Tomkins, the Aussies and Kiwis would be caused real difficulties, as they were last year until Shenton was injured. It's clearly been a problem for England that there hasn't been a consistent spine to the team and no doubt that is what Macbanana is trying to set up, with Widdop at fullback. However, he has been undermined this year by injuries to key players.
I don't understand why Wigan fans are stressing over what number Tomkins is playing under. Who knows, it might be tactical genius from Mcbanana: he may be wanting to confuse the opposition. Or something. Either way, Saints' organiser is Pryce at present and he's a six, leaving Kyle to do the flash stuff while learning the role of organiser. It was working well for us until they both hobbled off the pitch so there is no reason why it couldn't work well for England, assuming whoever plays at 6 is as good as Pryce was for us in 2010. |
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I don't understand why Wigan fans are stressing over what number Tomkins is playing under. Who knows, it might be tactical genius from Mcbanana: he may be wanting to confuse the opposition. Or something. Either way, Saints' organiser is Pryce at present and he's a six, leaving Kyle to do the flash stuff while learning the role of organiser. It was working well for us until they both hobbled off the pitch so there is no reason why it couldn't work well for England, assuming whoever plays at 6 is as good as Pryce was for us in 2010.'"
It was only a couple of months ago that most on here were putting Sam at 7 for Wigan next season with Finch to play 6. |
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| Quote JordanWarriors="JordanWarriors"you do realise Brough has been a Scotland international for quite a number of years?'"
He actually played for Scotland against Wales at the weekend  |
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| Quote JordanWarriors="JordanWarriors"you do realise Brough has been a Scotland international for quite a number of years?'"
Brough only recently chose to continue to represent Scotland recently. I am sure he will have asked the question re selection for England prior to announcing he would be representing Scotland again this time around.
I personally would have taken him in a heartbeat given the players we have out. Think a Brough Tomkins partnership has much better balance. |
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Quote jonh="JordanWarriors"you do realise Brough has been a Scotland international for quite a number of years?'"
Brough only recently chose to continue to represent Scotland recently. I am sure he will have asked the question re selection for England prior to announcing he would be representing Scotland again this time around.
I personally would have taken him in a heartbeat given the players we have out. Think a Brough Tomkins partnership has much better balance.'"
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| Quote JordanWarriors="JordanWarriors"he started playing for scotland in the european cup in 2004'"
He did, although he opted out of a tournament recently to put himself forward for England. As he's not been picked it makes sense for him to turn out for Scotland again. [url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_league/article5679199.eceLink[/url |
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I thought Tomkins did great at 7. Pity he got injured. That will be us totally fooked then.
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We dont have a chance with or without Sam T. Imagine what Maguire could do with a team of such quality, Steve Mcnamara is the worst possible coach we could have.
But anyhow thats irrellevant because we are stuck with him for this tournament at least. Against NZ we need to improve big time, hopefully Sam and Morley will be ok, depending on fitness I would go with:
1. Widdop
2. Briscoe
3. Atkins
4. Goulding
5. Hall
6. Sam T
7. Robinson
8. Morley
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Burgess
13. O'Loughlin
14. Fielden
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| Quote JTB="JTB"Quote JTB="JordanWarriors"he started playing for scotland in the european cup in 2004'"
He did, although he opted out of a tournament recently to put himself forward for England. As he's not been picked it makes sense for him to turn out for Scotland again. [url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_league/article5679199.eceLink[/url'"
ahh ok, wasn't aware you could pick and choose like that. what a c*nt move by him though |
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