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| Quote Big Steve="Big Steve"There is also a view that in dragging rocky back for a couple of games will disrupt the benefits of his year long loan. Cas will be less likely to play him if Wigan drag him back every few matches.
Maybe, just maybe, Wigan are looking slightly longer term than the next two to three matches.'"
I certainly think Wigan take a longer-term view of these things than most fans. But as the Yorkshire bloke who's been posting on this thread seems to imply, I suspect there a determination in the Ryan camp to get him away from Wigan. And in that circumstance, I imagine that - transfer fee permitting (and it would have to be a good one) - Wigan will reluctantly let him go.
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| There are a huge number of assumptions on this thread. Some may or may not be true, the truth is we as fans simply don't know.
As clarified earlier we have the option to recall RH if there is a significant injury to a half or full back. I would have thought the ST injury wouldn't count as that was known before he left. That leaves GW, Wane has said that GW could be back next week or it could be another 4. In the terms of the loan agreement does that count as significant? Again we don't know whether we can recall him or not at this stage.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"There are a huge number of assumptions on this thread. Some may or may not be true, the truth is we as fans simply don't know.
As clarified earlier we have the option to recall RH if there is a significant injury to a half or full back. I would have thought the ST injury wouldn't count as that was known before he left. That leaves GW, Wane has said that GW could be back next week or it could be another 4. In the terms of the loan agreement does that count as significant? Again we don't know whether we can recall him or not at this stage.'"
That's true AND there are two sides to an agreement. Would Cas have specified that they have to have their first choice #6 and #1 available before Hampshire can return. At present both Dorn and Roberts are out, Hampshire is playing at #1 and they have an young player at #6.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I certainly think Wigan take a longer-term view of these things than most fans. But as the Yorkshire bloke who's been posting on this thread seems to imply, I suspect there a determination in the Ryan camp to get him away from Wigan. And in that circumstance, I imagine that - transfer fee permitting (and it would have to be a good one) - Wigan will reluctantly let him go.'"
I'm not really implying anything I have no idea what Ryan's or Wigan' intentions are and nor am I privvy to his or Wgan's future plans, all I have tried to do is explain to you your assumptions and your speculation regarding him are off the mark based on the little knowledge in my possession.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I'm not really implying anything I have no idea what Ryan's or Wigan' intentions are and nor am I privvy to his or Wgan's future plans, all I have tried to do is explain to you your assumptions and your speculation regarding him are off the mark based on the little knowledge in my possession.'"
So you have no idea what Ryan's going to do or what Wigan are going to do, but you still think I'm wrong ... ???
Yeah, okay.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"So you have no idea what Ryan's going to do or what Wigan are going to do, but you still think I'm wrong ... ???
Yeah, okay.'"
I neither know nor care about anything Wigan squire nor can I predict the future of Ryan Hampshire, but I clearly know more than what you do which is painfully obvious by the way you keep contradicting yourself.
I was simply trying in a polite sort of way to let you know that you were clueless with your assumptions of the situation, you obviously can't comprehend this or maybe your just looking to be awkward, either way were done I get no pleasure from trying to hammer a nail into a knot in a plank of wood.
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"I neither know nor care about anything Wigan squire nor can I predict the future of Ryan Hampshire, but I clearly know more than what you do which is painfully obvious by the way you keep contradicting yourself.
[uI was simply trying in a polite sort of way to let you know that you were clueless with your assumptions of the situation[/u, you obviously can't comprehend this or maybe your just looking to be awkward, either way were done I get no pleasure from trying to hammer a nail into a knot in a plank of wood.'"
You haven't let me know anything of the sort, nor will you ever ... because by your own admission, you don't know anything.
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| Hampshire is certainly an enigma.
I don't think he cuts the mustard as a half at the moment. Somebody needs to convince him that, at the moment, his best attributes suit playing at full-back. He looks good coming into the line and has the passing and running game to provide a real threat from that position. After all, many excellent halves mature in the full-back position. However, his positional play and shakiness under the high ball make him a risk defensively.
It seems that Wigan and now Cas have decided his best position is full back (we have had Tom Holmes playing at stand-off for the last two).
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Hampshire is certainly an enigma.
I don't think he cuts the mustard as a half at the moment. Somebody needs to convince him that, at the moment, his best attributes suit playing at full-back. He looks good coming into the line and has the passing and running game to provide a real threat from that position. After all, many excellent halves mature in the full-back position. However, his positional play and shakiness under the high ball make him a risk defensively.
It seems that Wigan and now Cas have decided his best position is full back (we have had Tom Holmes playing at stand-off for the last two).'"
I'm hoping that playing full back at Cas will help him realise that. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him playing FB for Wigan next year with Tomkins at 6 and Williams at 7.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"I'm hoping that playing full back at Cas will help him realise that. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him playing FB for Wigan next year with Tomkins at 6 and Williams at 7.'"
The thing is, even though I think it's his best position, I'm not sure his shortcomings (defensive positional play and catching the high ball) mean he is good enough.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"The thing is, even though I think it's his best position, I'm not sure his shortcomings (defensive positional play and catching the high ball) mean he is good enough.'"
Tomkins had the same problems hence is reputation but has significantly improved over time
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"Tomkins had the same problems hence is reputation but has significantly improved over time'"
Not sure he improved in these areas from the performances I saw in the NRL! However, if you would like Hampshire back we'll take Tomkins on loan next year instead.
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