didn't necessarily mean to compare their respective incidents as it were, more to the point of getting rid of gleeson who we could have kept hold of and used while on the other hand gaz hock has been of no use to wigan while serving his ban. glesson hasn't been banned for this. we've just got rid, which is why i feel we have lost out in the gleeson issue whereas we haven't gained anything while gaz has been banned.

basically what i'm saying is if gleeson is good enough to play for hull then why did wigan get rid. his circumstances haven't changed and he will still have his problems but hull have decided to risk it whereas wigan have lost out on probably one of our top two defensive players, certainly centres. the results since he has been ommitted fromthe team are evident.

Well worth the price of a title win.

When was your last BTW?

Similar situation to the Sean Long scenario.
Wigan had to get rid and another team got the benefit (albeit Gleeson is in his thirties and Long was about 20).

Yeah Gareth Hock only had one moment of idiocy not like that ex-Academy player Gareth Charnock.

He did one thing wrong repeatedly over the course of several months.....

its a fine line between what Hock did and what charnock did

Gareth Charnock NEVER played for Wigan academy.

Enlighten me then because I am absolutely p!ssed that Wigan are down a top quality centre that we paid 100K for who now has a Super League contract and Hull FC have a top draw British centre.

I don't know the truth in all these dubious rumours, but on the cold hard face of it we've been screwed over.

Oh, I guess he had already "left" the club by then.

At least Gareth Hock isn't a repeat offender though Rogues?

+1

Were the only real losers from this situation IMO. The only saving grace from this being I hear Gleeson was a disruptive entity at training, and tried to lead other players down the slippery slope that he was on.

TBH I'm struggling why some are feeling hard done to with regards the Gleeson situation. The club will have known he would likely sign for someone else pretty soon after and will no doubt have taken that into account in terms of the conditions of his release from the club.

Given the club forked out for him and realised what an important player he was, you can draw your own conclusion why they were still prepared to release him. Given the situation, no club would have paid a transfer fee for him or swapped any decent players we would want.

To misquote the line from the song "There WILL be trouble ahead". The terrible twins reunited - glad I don't live in Hull!!!!!!!!!!!!