You can only have one without the other though

I'd rather see no Wigan RL than see us continue to keep taking a shafting off the rest of the league.

This used to the club of Uncle Mo. He'd 100% be doing what Saints are doing now. Using every advantage and avenue to achieve one goal - to make us the greatest RL team in the world. Wigan used to be a club that pushed the art of what people thought was possible. One that dominated the sport and ran roughshod over the British game. I'm extremely proud of that and it won't change.

That's what we need to get back to. With one or Britain's richest men, there's the opportunity to do it again.

Not seen it confirmed but I've heard they're appealing it on a technicality again. That'll be twice now which, for me, raises two questions:
1) How is the RFL possibly incompetent enough to get the wording wrong twice? Surely even the most slapdash of organisations should be able to learn from their earlier mistake?

2) How come when Wigan find a loophole they invented a charge of "against the spirit of the cap" but when Saints find a loophole TWICE they can't come up with "against the spirit of the disciplinary process"?

Yep, I’ve heard it’s a case of “wrong charge” which I’m assuming means the tribunal once again made a mess of the wording in their conclusion last night, and that there’s probably a fairly good chance we will win it.

They just need scrapping, they’re not fit for purpose at all and there shouldn’t be a panel full of clowns re-reffing every game. Just look at cards and stuff the ref puts on report. The way we do it now is pathetic even in theory, but the execution of it is just the stupidest I’ve ever seen

If you're reviewing the red card then Lees still gets done as he was part of the sending off

I’m not really d about this incident. Lees probably should be banned based on current rules and they’ve botched it. I just think their existence is completely pointless

I know it's a thankless task and without them we have no game and all that but the refereeing and disciplinary this season has been at an all time low. We have a player once again sitting out a match for an incident that was a big, fat nothing and people appealing bans that were far more justifiable. It's nuts...and that's before we get to the fact that an incorrect red card probably cost us a trophy. How has it got to where it is? It's a shambles.

2nd appeal lost and Saints have accepted result

Good job the RFL bend over backwards to help Saints or heaven knows where we would be!!

Bottom two where you belong

Now, if that is not regarded as a frivolous appeal I don’t know how you define it.

A frivolous appeal is something fans don’t seem to understand. Making an appeal and losing doesn’t constitute a frivolous appeal. The appeal system is there to be used. A frivolous appeal is when you launch an appeal process but you don’t contend with guilt or the grading, essentially wasting everybody’s time. I always use the Leeds ones as an example: they launched an appeal and basically said “we don’t deny he’s guilty, and the grading is right, but the ban is harsh based on other bans given out this season”. However, they can’t change the ban length unless you prove the player is either not guilty or has been charged with the wrong grade. If you’re not challenging either of those things then there’s literally nothing that can be done and you’ve just wasted everybody’s time by calling an appeal panel together - hence the added punishment

It’s mad how many people have no clue. The amount of comments on social media asking for a frivolous appeal EVERY time we appeal anything is boring af. Shouldn’t be surprised though really considering so many of the clubs themselves didn’t even understand it, hence why they kept getting whacked by it.

Are we sure?